Matt Cutts attacking V7N

[John Scott]

http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/undetectable-spam/

[lizza]

Ya,I got this article yesterday..

[Diddy1]

Yeah I read that too. I must say I agree with him to a certain point. After all there is not such thing as undetectable search engines. You gotta understand for an influential player in the SEO filed such as yourself anything or service you uptake will draw attention from the search engine representatives which will make them pay even more closely attention to it. But even if it wasn't you as soon as the service gained momentum it would have been found by major SE's.

Thank You

[John Scott]

Undetectable is undetectable. I cannot tell which links are paid. Google can't either.

[Aviva]

Well written reply at:
http://www.internet-marketing-blog.c...-should-chill/
Twice as many human reviews as the Google approved DMOZ and Yahoo! directories.

[petertdavis]

Comparing link selling to doorway pages is a bit of a stretch, eh?

But, to look on the bright side, a lot of people who read Matt Cutt's blog will probably be very interested in your services. lol

[John Scott]

Record sales today.

I guess I should be happy, but I'm absolutely swamped and thinking of suspending the service until we can get caught up.

[petertdavis]

You need to scale better, links are a commodity now.

Get some hired hands.

[John Scott]

We're hiring one more assistant. Then things should run smoother.

[dcristo]

Originally Posted by petertdavis

Comparing link selling to doorway pages is a bit of a stretch, eh?l

Yeah that lost me too.

[Hahh]

In his position what else could he say? Links are a commodity, and Google's policy is a commodity, too.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Hahh

In his position what else could he say? Links are a commodity, and Google's policy is a commodity, too.

True.

[dcristo]

Originally Posted by Hahh

In his position what else could he say? Links are a commodity, and Google's policy is a commodity, too.

That's exactly right, he has his own agenda and we all know that. Take his words with a grain of salt just like you would with anyone else.

I just don't get how you can compare doorway pages to selling links though...

[casperl]

Interesting to read for me I was suprised to see such a post..

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by dcristo

I just don't get how you can compare doorway pages to selling links though...

The only reason he did that, in my view, is because he needed 'something' to show that Google can detect "things". Because he can NOT show that google can see the difference between plain ordinairy contextual links from links that look exactly the same but are bought he pulled out an old example of how they can detect doorway pages.

It shows that some people at Google got nervous and it's just a (pretty lame) scaring tactic.

But it seem to work, only a few comments point out his error of using a bad example and comparing apples with pears for the sake of scaring people off to use that service.

[jumpenjuhosaphat]

To call it unethical is a bit one sided. It would be unethical if I were paid to create an editorial review by a person who requested it be a favorable one, and I did it despite my true opinion. It is assumed that because I'm paid to do it that it's dishonest. I find that belief a bit offensive.

I also get tired of hearing that as web masters, we shouldn't do anything that is done to "affect search engines", and that we should use the no-follow attribute in the case that we are paid. Well, doesn't the no-follow attribute have an effect on search engines, isn't that Google directly asking us to place tags in our scripts that directly influence the behavior of search engines?

I think it's only fair that one gets paid for their time. I'm not asking for money for a link, I'm being paid for offering my opinion. Who the hell does Google think they are telling me that that is unethical, to expect to be paid for my efforts?

[Ferre]

Me thinks it is highly unethical to use scare tactics in order to force website owners to adjust their website content.

Me thinks it is also highly unethical to create an advertising system that promotes the internet to be cluttered with spammy adsense pages.

Me thinks it is highly unethical to abuse your position as the most used search engine to dictate website owners how they should link to other websites.

In my opinion, website owners should not adjust to Google, but Google should adjust to the changes on the internet, after all, without website owners they would have no business at all.

[James Trotta]

I bought a v7n contextual link for one of my sites. I'm betting that Google won't be able to detect it.