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Old 02-06-2007, 08:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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how google define duplication?

do not know how google define duplication
dmoz.com and dmoz.org are also same and they do not get banned
see many rss feed articles are all same contents and post everywhere and they do not get banned
who creates blogs with 3 way feed articles, do they get banned ?

how google define duplication?
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Google is strange when it comes to duplication, in my personal experiense.. if you have enough backlinks to your website you can get away with duplication.
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Old 02-10-2007, 04:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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do not know how google define duplication
dmoz.com and dmoz.org are also same and they do not get banned
see many rss feed articles are all same contents and post everywhere and they do not get banned
who creates blogs with 3 way feed articles, do they get banned ?

how Google define duplication?

Your not really going to get banned, but duplicate content won't have a positive effect towards your website, and thats for sure. I mean think of it how many people do you know that gets banned from Google?

You'd really have to be spamming them out to get banned, or doing some serious black hat techniques to achieve high rankings, most of the time a duplicate contented page will get flagged as supplemental result, so there for it won't count, or achieve a high ranking in the search engines.

All supplemental pages get listed last, and do not show up first in the search engines, now I think once you start to get a little bit more trust with Google, and higher pager rank, you can probably get a way with little duplicating, but its not a good thing to do, IMHO

Now with the dmoz.org, and dmoz.com, if I'm right one is just a redirect, its not 2 domains with the same content, if thats what your referring too.
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Old 02-11-2007, 11:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i think google filters have big opinion in that
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Old 02-11-2007, 11:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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There are many things to look at when it comes to duplication. Let's remember, google is a bot, there's no human reading your articles so of course the system isn't 100%, but google is quite intelligent in that regards and does have favorites.

The question about dmoz is well, I suspect being owned by Google and the fact that google loves it has lots to do.

It's not duplication if you provide a short snippet of an article and the full article resides somewhere else. Although your site may not be looked at favorably if that's all you do..(because it's all about content and not so much about syndicating others content).

Duplicate content is when you copy site A entirely. Which means if an article appears on my website and you copy it in it's entirely, that's duplicate content. Now of course, what if you changed a couple things? It depends on how much you change and how you change it. If you are only going to change 5 words and replace them with synonyms, chances are you will get caught.

Who stole who? Where the article appears first helps in determining this BUT if an authority site steals something from you, it can be a challenge. Google has these trusted sites. Which means, I could submit one of my articles to ezinearticles and mine would be duplicate content (and that is exactly why you don't submit articles you use on your site to other websites)

There's difference between getting filtered for a term and getting the site banned. I don't believe you are going to get banned if you publish a couple articles from other websites. I have done so many times on some of my sites that are "authority sites" in google. It depends on the proportion of course and how these appear.

Let's say you start a new website and create 50000 pages in a day..all duplicate content..you'd likely be banned

However if you have 500 original articles and 15 articles from other sites..you probably won't be banned

So, I hope that helps clarify some things for you. Of course I am not Google so these are indeed speculations but, speculations that do seem to be correct 80% of the time based on the sites I have seen.

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Old 02-12-2007, 01:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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do not know how google define duplication
dmoz.com and dmoz.org are also same and they do not get banned
Google have said that you can have the same content on different TLDs eg example.com and example.co.uk etc. I have a number of sites on different TLSs and I find in practice there's no penalty but only one of them gets indexed properly.

Duplicate content is a tricky one as AnaB says. Some duplicate content adds to a document's importance eg the Linux manual is duplicated everywhere.

For me duplicate content is an issue within a site, whereby I have to work very hard to make titles descriptions and keywords unique and relevant to the page they are on, as well as adding lots of unique content. The last is especially important if you have a lot of code and navigation overhead.
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I don't think Google has cleared the definition of duplicate content so far, in my personal experiense the duplicate content within the same site are just being ignored rather than penalized.
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What is duplicate content?
Duplicate content generally refers to substantive blocks of content within or across domains that either completely match other content or are appreciably similar. Most of the time when we see this, it's unintentional or at least not malicious in origin: forums that generate both regular and stripped-down mobile-targeted pages, store items shown (and -- worse yet -- linked) via multiple distinct URLs, and so on. In some cases, content is duplicated across domains in an attempt to manipulate search engine rankings or garner more traffic via popular or long-tail queries.

source: Google
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As for duplicate content in articles, what software is used in directories that checks originalityof the submitted articles?
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