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04-11-2007, 02:02 AM
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PR is a good guideline of site quality.
when i want to buy ads link, sure refer to PR first.
i havent see Pr1/2 site with alexa below 10,000.
thats indicate the traffic as well
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04-11-2007, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by charlesgan
PR is a good guideline of site quality.
when i want to buy ads link, sure refer to PR first.
i havent see Pr1/2 site with alexa below 10,000.
thats indicate the traffic as well
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HAHA, do you know the factors which are Alexa rankings based on?
Alexa’s traffic rankings are based on the usage patterns of Alexa Toolbar users over a rolling 3 month period.
Create a new PR0 communuty site, let everyone in your town discover it, make your visitors install Alexa toolbar and you will be in top10000. 
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04-11-2007, 02:26 AM
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Thats not so easy
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HAHA, do you know the factors which are Alexa rankings based on?
Alexa’s traffic rankings are based on the usage patterns of Alexa Toolbar users over a rolling 3 month period.
Creare a new PR0 communuty site, let everyone in your town discover it, make your visitors install Alexa toolbar and you will be in top10000. 
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Do you think its so easy to get Alexa toolbar installed on others PCs ? Especially when installing it all good antiviruses beging alarming
No doubt if you have good friends and install alexa toolbar on their PCs and set their homepage to your site, it will help but being in top 10,000 is still not possible without natural traffic 
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04-11-2007, 02:42 AM
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im more on traffic rather than PR but theres a connection with them as link == PR and with a lot of link popularity then a lot might see your site and click through it....PR might not that important still they are one factor that sees my webmasters before they link to you...
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04-11-2007, 05:15 AM
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Pr is still important in web site, PR is one of the factor consider in exchanging link.
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04-11-2007, 07:51 AM
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Page Rank matters to Google as it tells the Googlebot how frequent to crawl a webpage.
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04-11-2007, 05:11 PM
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Page Rank matters to Google as it tells the Googlebot how frequent to crawl a webpage.
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Not really. Google can crawl lower pagerank sites more often that sites with better pagerank. It depend how often you update your site.
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04-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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PageRank is one important factor (would anyone really turn down a free PR8 link?), although which PageRank are we talking about?
It has long been suspected that the PageRank that shows on the toolbar may not be an accurate reflection of the actual PageRank Google is using to make their calculations internally.
Like any area of SEO, it's difficult to prove the exact effect of PageRank, but I think it's fair to say that sites that show high page rank don't tend to sit at the bottom of the SERPs.
Also, everything you would need to do to get a high PageRank score (i.e. quality inbound linking) would surely reflect well in other algo/ranking calculations.
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04-11-2007, 10:22 PM
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As always, very well said Peter! 
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04-11-2007, 10:54 PM
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Let me get this straight. If I have a website that sells widgets, and it has 1000 backlinks from websites with PR of 0 but very good content and anchor links for different keywords.
Then a competitor sells widgets but has 100 backlinks from websites with pr of 5 and up, but the content is not good.
Both the sites have anchor text for the same keyword.
Which site would rank higher?
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04-11-2007, 10:54 PM
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I meant rank higher in the serps
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04-11-2007, 11:39 PM
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It's a bit more complicated than that. I would think, though, that the 1,000 PR0 links would have a good chance of beating the 100 PR5 links, if the 1,000 are organic and not spammy.
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04-12-2007, 12:51 AM
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Pagerank is important for the site and as seo we are working on it on how to get a high rank. PageRank is one factor and it is important, but it certainly is not worth obsessing over; there are many other factors involved in website ranking that should be given nearly equal consideration. In addition, simply building a good website is the best thing you can do to attract visitors, even without a great PageRank.
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Many webmasters trying to get higher pagerank and they believe that their traffic and positions will grow. It is a biggest confuse in today SEO. Only webmaster resources and directories need good pagerank to increase cients. In this case people trust website more and spend more money for web design, seo, submissions. For sport, health, dating.... websites Pagerank does not play any role. Visitors never check pagerank trying to buy sport uniform or doctor advice. Pagerank 2 website can easily rank higher in Serps than pr8 website.
Remember... highter pagerank you have - more spam in your inbox.
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04-12-2007, 03:00 AM
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Page rank is still important, as webmasters directly relate quality with page rank. Page rank is related mostly with quality back links, quality back links should be considered as positive votes for any site. This will help ultimately to gain ranking. So we cannot deny the importance of page rank.
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04-12-2007, 05:28 AM
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Pagerank is a reflection of how well your site is promoted through links and such. Its what Google thinks of your site.
Yeah a PR2 site can rank higher than a PR6 site, but a PR6 site can sell links for $25 a month where a pr2 site cant.... and people by links a part of their thinking goes into what PR the site is. So.....
It is important because it can tell you how well or not so well you are doing and potential EXTRA revenue you can achieve with your site.
To say it's not important is just ignorant, unintelligent and a waste of a thread.
IMHO
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04-12-2007, 12:43 PM
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Not really. Google can crawl lower pagerank sites more often that sites with better pagerank. It depend how often you update your site.
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I just read that someplace in Matt Cutts Blog. I will have to write him and ask where his entry is that states that. 
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04-12-2007, 01:44 PM
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Are you perhaps thinking of this?
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04-12-2007, 02:01 PM
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Not really. Google can crawl lower pagerank sites more often that sites with better pagerank. It depend how often you update your site.
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I finally found it - I knew I had seen the relation with PR somewhere on Matt's site!
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One of the classic crawling strategies that Google has used is the amount of PageRank on your pages. So just because your site has been around for a couple years (or that you submit a sitemap), that doesn’t mean that we’ll automatically crawl every page on your site. In general, getting good quality links would probably help us know to crawl your site more deeply.http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/q-a-thread-march-27-2006/
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04-13-2007, 08:58 AM
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That's the quote I was thinking of I knew it was in a Q & A section. Thanks for finding it now I know I am not going crazy.
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04-13-2007, 12:47 PM
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