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04-09-2007, 04:27 PM
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Pagerank is not so important
Many webmasters trying to get higher pagerank and they believe that their traffic and positions will grow. It is a biggest confuse in today SEO. Only webmaster resources and directories need good pagerank to increase cients. In this case people trust website more and spend more money for web design, seo, submissions. For sport, health, dating.... websites Pagerank does not play any role. Visitors never check pagerank trying to buy sport uniform or doctor advice. Pagerank 2 website can easily rank higher in Serps than pr8 website.
Remember... highter pagerank you have - more spam in your inbox.
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04-09-2007, 04:34 PM
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Actually, that is not entirely true. Although PageRank is only one part of how your position in the search results is determined, it is still a part of that. A huge part of your placement in the search results is based on your incoming links. Those incoming links tend to increase your PageRank. As your position increases in the search results (based in part on the incoming links) you will see more traffic, so in my humble opinion, it is a bit misleading to tell people that PageRank it isn't all that important. 
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04-09-2007, 04:38 PM
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Sentences are divide because pages which are high in SERPs often have high PR.
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Originally Posted by sniperhiga
Remember... highter pagerank you have - more spam in your inbox.
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04-09-2007, 05:23 PM
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Its my first day and first post at v7n
So be gentle if i am not right
As Pagrank is Google's optimisation measure against any page. I assume
Pagerank is important when selling links as well 
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04-09-2007, 06:07 PM
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pagerank not important huh? anyone want to swap a PR1 site I have for your PR7??
Pagerank is uber important, yes you can be beaten in the serp's but on a level field you will rank above your competitors.
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Originally Posted by itsonlychand786
As Pagrank is Google's optimisation measure against any page. I assume
Pagerank is important when selling links as well 
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Yes,.. and no.
You can sell links if you have POTENTIAL for page rank 
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04-09-2007, 07:35 PM
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04-09-2007, 08:00 PM
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i think PageRank plays an important role too..although there are sites who rank well with lower PR but there more site who rank well with high PR. PR is not a perfect technology but generally speaking, it works.
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04-09-2007, 09:24 PM
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let me check some instances, your site is PR0 but you have links to PR9, PR8 and lots of PR7. And your competitor is PR 0 also but links to only PR3 or PR4. Who do you think will rank on the two?
pagerank is important.
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04-09-2007, 09:58 PM
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High Pagerank is important from well development website which online for a while and got thousands / millions backlinks.
If you bought / got pr7 backlink from website which has only 50 backlinks and 10 of them from (pr6-  websites which own 1 webmaster it doesn't play a big role.
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04-10-2007, 03:39 AM
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Best to have the high SERPs and high PR 
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04-10-2007, 07:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket
Actually, that is not entirely true. Although PageRank is only one part of how your position in the search results is determined, it is still a part of that. A huge part of your placement in the search results is based on your incoming links. Those incoming links tend to increase your PageRank. As your position increases in the search results (based in part on the incoming links) you will see more traffic, so in my humble opinion, it is a bit misleading to tell people that PageRank it isn't all that important. 
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I totally agree. The only way a PR1 website will beat out a PR7 website in the SERPS is if they are not targeting the same keywords in their anchor text. The PR7 just happens to be there as a secondary terms...
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04-10-2007, 07:10 AM
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Page Rank is still important in terms of backlinks in your site. It means the higher the PR the more quality links you have... 
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04-10-2007, 01:39 PM
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Ok, my site (ManhattanService) was pr3 before last update, and it was kicking a.. to other seo companies in rankings. Today it is pr4 and it is still on top with many competitive SEO words, pr7-8 SEO companies have lower positions comparing to my site.
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04-10-2007, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sniperhiga
Ok, my site (ManhattanService) was pr3 before last update, and it was kicking a.. to other seo companies in rankings. Today it is pr4 and it is still on top with many competitive SEO words, pr7-8 SEO companies have lower positions comparing to my site.
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If they changed their anchor text on each link that they have, they would pass you. They may be targeting multiple keywords...who knows.
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04-10-2007, 02:15 PM
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I have many websites with very low PR that are ranked on the first page above high PR rated sites. It is not enough just to gain a good PR, you must optimize your site to make the most of its PR.
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04-10-2007, 02:45 PM
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I agree. But why to tell people about pagerank's useless value if they don't accept this proven fact anyway? Let them dream about "high pr = lots of visitors".... 
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04-10-2007, 02:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by janhvizdak
I agree. But why to tell people about pagerank's useless value if they don't accept this proven fact anyway? Let them dream about "high pr = lots of visitors".... 
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I never said once that high PR means lots of visitors. PR has nothing to do with visitors, but a high PR site means quality links and with good keyword research and anchor text it will beat out a PR3 site any day of the week.
I see a lot of high PR websites with their domain name in their anchor text. Sure you will beat them out...
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04-10-2007, 03:42 PM
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pagerank is important but do not worship it. in terms of google serp number of backlinks will still rule pageranks. it doesnt matter if it was coming form lower pr's. its like a question of which is stronger, a big solid flexible cord or number of small fibers formed together to make a much bigger rope? as long as page is indexed in google whatver its pr still it has an importance..
thats why im giving importance to my own website pagerank but not to my backlinks pageranks.
correct me if im wrong. im not a pro but this is what i believe.
Last edited by brealmz : 04-10-2007 at 03:45 PM.
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04-11-2007, 12:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phlash2k1
If they changed their anchor text on each link that they have, they would pass you. They may be targeting multiple keywords...who knows.
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I have more than 200 different anchor texts for my site which include words: seo, submission, optimization, link, backlink, webmaster, web, online, promotion, search.... i never targeted any keywords in purpuse.
I prefer to give at least 2-3 anchor texts for every word i have in my content. It gives this word power and drive me visitors who type long sentences. I have this way more than 5 000 visitors comming on from search engines on my homepage a month.
In this case i can tell that if this sites target multiple keywords, it mean that i still win because i target random keywords.
About keywords: I am little upset that i forget url of this site which ranked well on Google with some SEO keywords... but it used to be religion website with pr7 which they bought. Funny thing is... this site got a lot of links to their religious topic and when this SEO company bought it, they changed content and now it is ranked really well. If i find this site again, i will post it and you will see.
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04-11-2007, 12:13 AM
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I think that PR his Important on google - yahoo - alta vista search results ...
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