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Old 03-14-2004, 09:31 AM
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PROOF GOOGLE DOESNT USE META TAGS

This found thin info on a forum and thought it seemed very interesting. It basically proves that google does nothing with meta tags etc

On Jan 29th I added some words to various sections of a page to see how they would rank in Google. Googlebot obliginly visted the next day and two days later the updated page was in the Google cache, where it remains today.

I took a page with a low PR, verified in advance that none of the 4 words could be found in Google, and then added:

jambomergatroid789 - to the bottom of the visible page

oxydiffrecoustt246 - to the page title

paradorfrumicous123 - to the Meta description tag

falfarrextantyser456 - to the meta keywords tag.


If you search for any of these Unique words you will find that only the word added to the page content and the word added to the page title are found in a Google Search.

On the face of it this would seem to indicate that Googles algo pays very little attention to either the meta Description or the Meta Keywords tag. but lets wait for the full Google update to be sure.

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Old 03-14-2004, 09:46 AM
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try putting them in all of you page contents.. one in meta, one not in meta..
i think meta tags are like page titles.. "Supplementary Keywords" or something.. they rank higher than just in the page.
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:53 AM
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well that post was along time ago now if u search yo

well that post was along time ago now if u search you will find forums where this has been posted but at the tme of the post it proved that google read no META TAGS.

if u put ( THE WORD ) in the KEYWORD META TAG and and search for it and it doesnt come up and its never been searched before then that makes it safe to say that they dont use meta tags
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 10:07 AM
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http://www.internet-marketing-research.net/g_tests1.php
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 10:41 AM
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http://www.internet-marketing-research.net/g_tests1.php
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Old 03-14-2004, 01:02 PM
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ONLY 1 PROBLEM

the word puffnile is in both pages text so ofcourse google will find both pages its in the text what you need to do is on one page put the word in the text and on the other page DO NOT put the word in the text thats the KEY
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 01:09 PM
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The Real Test Is This
Get 4 Words that Are Not Searched

Add word #1 - to the bottom of the visible page

Add word #2 - to the page title

Add word #3 - to the Meta description tag

Add word #4 - to the meta keywords tag.

THEN

If you search for any of these Unique words you will find that only the word added to the page content and the word added to the page title are found in a Google Search.

On the face of it this would seem to indicate that Googles algo pays very little attention to either the meta Description or the Meta Keywords tag. but lets wait for the full Google update to be sure.

ANDDDDD make sure that they are all on pages that dont have a high PR that also has an effect on the results
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 02:02 PM
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Been there, done that:
http://www.seo-lab.com/seo-lab-tests/meta-tags/

But as John pointed out, that doesn't mean to say that Google doesn't reference meta-tags against on-page elements for ranking purposes.
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 02:02 PM
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no, they are supplementary.. content has to have it, and then if content has it it will look in page title/meta tags for more for better results..
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 02:11 PM
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Re: ONLY 1 PROBLEM

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the word puffnile is in both pages text so ofcourse google will find both pages its in the text what you need to do is on one page put the word in the text and on the other page DO NOT put the word in the text thats the KEY
"Puffnile" isn't test.
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 02:12 PM
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Been there, done that:
http://www.seo-lab.com/seo-lab-tests/meta-tags/

But as John pointed out, that doesn't mean to say that Google doesn't reference meta-tags against on-page elements for ranking purposes.
Exactly.

http://www.internet-marketing-resear..._meta_tags.php
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 02:14 PM
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WELL I SAID

On the face of it this would seem to indicate that Googles algo pays very little attention to either the meta Description or the Meta Keywords tag.

ATTN - VERY LITTLE ATTENTION TO EITHER META DESCRIPTION or META KEYWORDS.
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 02:17 PM
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We know that, the meta tags dont affect google very much. But apparently altavista uses them
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 02:21 PM
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BUT

If for some reason you ahve a KEYWORD that isnt in the text it wont show up in any search. Thats what the point I was trying to make. Is that the text is the most important part of google looking at your page. But again I am running my own test with 4 words that have never been searched adding
1 to the title
1 to keywords
1 to description
1 to the text

Which do u think will show up in google ???
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 02:27 PM
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The text or title. Sure if you just copy and paste a string from your keywords into google, your site won't come up.
 
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Old 03-14-2004, 08:29 PM
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Keywords hold some weight

I believe that Google factors it all into the big picture. Frequency of the terms or terms appearing in Meta description, keywords title and heading tags does help paint a picture. Although keywords, alone, don't appear to have much weight, I think all combined does. Also position of keywords matters.
 
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Old 03-16-2004, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by I, Brian
Been there, done that:
http://www.seo-lab.com/seo-lab-tests/meta-tags/

But as John pointed out, that doesn't mean to say that Google doesn't reference meta-tags against on-page elements for ranking purposes.
Exactly.

http://www.internet-marketing-resear..._meta_tags.php
Aaahhh...it was the old "meta-tags" issue you had with Chris Beasley - didn't occur to me until just now.

It was Chris complaining on SitePoint of this upstart "John Scott" that had me originally click through to IMR and join.
 
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Old 03-16-2004, 01:30 PM
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An interesting observation

I have recently been experimenting with title, keyword and description. I have found that Google will display this within 1-2 days with changes.

I have also found that posts on this newsgroup are shown in google's index with 1 week. I don't understand why Google has not done a thourough backlink crawl since February. Yet some backlinks are in the index.

I know this as I have had a major backlink program in place Since Feb 20, 04. All other SEs have my new links in their index, but Google. Is it possible that Google does this intentionally?
 
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Old 03-21-2004, 07:46 AM
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OK here are the results.

In the title I used 6646648899
In the description I used 775775855
In the keywords I used 6646646464
In the actual page at the bottom I used 774747749000

Searching for the "6646648899"which was in the title you do find a result.
Searching for the "775775855"which was in the description you do NOT find results.
Searching for the "6646646464"which was in the keyword you do NOT find results.
Searching for the "774747749000"which was in the actual page text you do find a result

My results are that the title and actual placement of text on the page is most important accoding to google. Google didnt even index my keywords and description or they would be found when searching for them.
 
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Old 03-21-2004, 09:05 AM
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do you not read? meta tags are secondary.. they will get you better ranking only if its in title or page..
 
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