Am I Dropped by Google? - Page 2

starca · 04-17-2004, 09:15 PM

Dave, sorry google dropped your site. When one door shuts another one opens. One of your others site will probably be bigger and better than the old. Press on!

POR-15 Depot · 04-17-2004, 09:18 PM

Ohh the one it dropped was a site I had "waiting in the wings" anyway. I have 6 sites dedicated to the product, It just happened to pick the one we use for all our ads,busn cards, signs, etc tec.. I'm not dead in the water yet

John Scott · 04-18-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rustbullet

Wish I knew what the hell I did..

Dave,

I have warned people a couple times that GoogleGuy reads here. In fact, one of the biggest boosts in traffic this forum ever had was when GoogleGuy said this forum was "good stuff" at WebmasterWorld.

Then you have WilliamC come along along say that GoogleGuy is a "full of crap". He said it here, and he said it elsewhere. And at the same time he advertises text links for sale. Now, I could be wrong, but if I were GoogleGuy I wouldn't be too, um, happy about that.

Notice on his site - the link you bought alongside links to viagra sites, porn sites, and all other type of crap. It's pretty easy to spot a link network. Pretty much on the same level as a FFA, but instead of it being free, you get to pay the twat to screw you.

Does Google penalize for inbound links? Sure do. There was one site in the top ten for "search engine optimization", with a PR8 index page, and no hidden text or outbound links to bad neighborhoods. In the last update, Google dropped the PR and dropped over 20,000 backlinks to the site. Scary stuff, considering the fact that the guy had paid tens of thousands of dollars to buy all those backlinks.

I'd recommend staying away from that dimwit altogether. He doesn't know Google from a hole in the ground. While he was here, he stated as fact that Google treats unlinked ALT text the same as linked ALT text. I mean, the absolute stupidity of the guy is mind boggling. And couple that stupidity with a willingness to state groundless speculation as fact, and you have 100% crap. Link to thread here.

And the turd really has a serious problem with lying. At one time in this forum, he claimed he (and I'm quoting) "could throw 11 million unique webmasters per month around". LOL. Eleven million unique webmasters per month is 366,666 uniques per day. That would equal an Alexa ranking in the top 300. Yet, the most users ever online at the crap forum was a paltry 39. And that't the record. Most of the time there are less than 3 users online. (Most likely those are Google's Adsense spider.) From his Alexa rankings, I'd guess he has less than 1,000 visitors per day, not 366,666. But then, you bought links from every site in his network - did you see tens of thousands of visits every day?

Oh, and he claims I banned him. I didn't and he knows it. Jazzee banned him because he was being crude towards her.

Dave, the old saying "Lie down with dogs get up with fleas" pops to mind.

On the new domain, build relevant linkage. I know relevant linkage isn't the easiest, but it can be done.

powerofeyes · 04-20-2004, 09:39 AM

Wow John, I thought you and William are great friends :wink: , I have always wondered how dangerous william's link network is, It is just same like the PR8 IQ sites network who were badly penalized for cross linking and selling text links to all sort of sites in the recent PR update,

i respect GoogleGuy a lot, i always feel he is in top positions at google ( even sergie or Larry or craig ) , I wonder why william thought he is crap that is too weird,

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There was one site in the top ten for "search engine optimization", with a PR8 index page, and no hidden text or outbound links to bad neighborhoods.

I think they were main buyers from http://text-link-ads.com), This is why they must be penalized, They were gaming Google's system with all these link buying, Google is completely monitoring all online auction places where text ads are sold based on PR,
Jarrot of textlinkbrokers.com ( one more PR links auction site ) has a list of sites whose PR has been blocked due to excessive sales of links, it is here blockedpr.com ( i avoided all clickable links so that you dont boost their link popularity

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fsbotexas.us · 04-24-2004, 10:51 PM

ouch, is there anything we should know so not to "game" the engines ?

fsbotexas.us · 04-24-2004, 10:54 PM

sorry folks, I don't know what happened, this responce was for another post and something happened, I mean, I am not tripping or anything that I know of, so sorry for this last post.

fsbotexas.us · 04-24-2004, 10:54 PM

ouch, is there anything we should know so not to "game" the engines ?

Assure · 04-28-2004, 09:05 PM

Until recently I have over 730 visitors from google a month. This month I have had 38 visitors and google has spidered my site 47 times and retrieved only 35 K. Previously they spidered 50 times and retrieved over 400K What have I done wrong? The site is http://www.assureyourprivacy.com/

Can any one give me some pointer on what to do?

mjm1905 · 05-09-2004, 08:35 AM

Dave,

Why not inquire about the issue with Google. Try to find out what you did.

I got a little bit lost with this discussion. What is the problem Google would have with selling links. I would assume this is different than directories that charge for the placement of links?

awall19 · 05-09-2004, 04:36 PM

Its not selling links that is bad...the world is run by advertisements. It is selling links based primarily on pagerank to any / all related & unrelated sites.

It undermines their algorithm and pushes lots of affiliate type sites to the top of the market.

look for prescription drugs to see what I am talking about.

I have had people search for things like

zoloft feedback - buy - cheap - prescription - pharmacy

to find my depressionblog site. the biggest problem with the web is how search engines use link analysis so heavily and how these links are commercially biased. it traps good info underneath crap crass commercial crap

mjm1905 · 05-11-2004, 08:29 PM

So it would be a good idea to stay away from websites that are advertising, "Step up your page rank, $xx.xx per link,"?

John Scott · 05-11-2004, 08:59 PM

Yeah. Any mention of PR is not a good sign.

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mjm1905 · 05-12-2004, 10:50 AM

Thanks John,

Feel like I am lost in a sea of where to advertise... Starting to get a picture of the whole thing. Are there any other general, "Do not advertise here," things to watch out for on directories?

John Scott · 05-12-2004, 11:09 AM

First, submit to www.bluefind.com

Then get listed in all the other directories. Then sposor a couple related sites in exchange for a prominent link.

Then... just go build up your link pop.

mjm1905 · 05-12-2004, 11:57 AM

Bluefind is at the top of my list right now. I am trying to promote on a scheduled basis with some budgeting guidelines applied. I will be stopping by there soon. In addition, I am trying to make some modifications to the general site. I want to ensure the site is easy to navigate, while relevant to the links I submit.

mjm1905 · 05-13-2004, 10:17 AM

There you go John. Thats was a quick placement too. I listed in four or five directories earlier today. This time did not do the subdomain thing for the Classified advertising, just focused it right on the base domain.

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Originally Posted by JohnScott

Then sposor a couple related sites in exchange for a prominent link.

Then... just go build up your link pop.

I would appreciate if you could provide some further details on sponsoring a couple related sites. I am not sure what mean by this.

awall19 · 05-13-2004, 10:51 AM

many powerful sites sell ads. you can sponsor them and hopefully they would provide links to you for sponsorship.

frequently when you ask it does not cost as much as one might think to sponsor quality content websites.

awall19 · 05-13-2004, 10:52 AM

be careful who you sponsor though. many sites are getting their link popularity blocked for sponsoring casino / pharmacy / other unrelated websites.

mjm1905 · 05-13-2004, 12:20 PM

That ads some value to sponsorship... Okay, believe I am with you guys, and I spent considerable time on that aspect of my site.

First I tried a program called PhpAds new for this. Nice program, but it did not migrate well onto my server because of the maintenance feature. So I jumped over to Commission Junction. Is there a affiliate site similar to this that offers such a thing? For example, one that allows rotation of ads from multiple sponsors.

Never even considered an affiliate utilizing such a feature... Am I misunderstanding this? Moreover, some examples would be appreciated.

awall19 · 05-13-2004, 01:06 PM

you are misunderstanding.

look at the right column of this website
http://www.icehousedesigns.com/
they are selling links ($50 for your link here)
and they have some pharmacy type ads there. this is an example of how not to do it (since pharmacy ads are a fairly certain indication of bad things to come), but there are many sites that are worth sponsoring.

find a site or two on your topic and sponsor it.