Google ranking has changed?

Johan007 · 04-19-2004, 02:35 AM

Ok something has defiantly been going on in the last 2 months that devalue many of the points we believe in.

Even though Google seems to rank the majority of sites better unfortunaly some minority sites seem to do unfairly well due to a lot of “copy writing” or what I like to call “keyword spamming” is becoming increasingly popular and also subdomain and keyword urls with repetition content mainly the same on every page apart from the keyword.

Supporting Evidence
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...UK%7CcountryGB

The Z Review website beets better sites like the BBC and Empire sites that are huge in the UK due to keyword spamming. Even my movie site has a much higher PR on page and domain but I would never include the title more than 2 times on the page!

What I am saying is that Google has moved the goal posts. Many of my sites have lots of inbound links but only on a few domains and these too have rightly suffered very badly. And so I believe its not the number of inbound urls it’s the number of domains that link to you.

Rob · 04-19-2004, 11:19 AM

I don't believe that is caused entirely by body text. First off, your review page has no PR at all. The Z Review uses a better title, starting with the movie title. The Z Review also has the movie title in the page name (girlnextdoorthe.shtm).

When linking to this movie's review page, I suggest using the anchor text "Girl Next Door, The" instead of "The Girl Next Door" as Google ignores "The" in a search as it is a very common word.

Johan007 · 04-19-2004, 02:13 PM

my page will have a PR5 but it dont show on the toolbar yet - but I was comapring it to the likes of the BBC.

RonHollingsworth · 04-19-2004, 03:09 PM

Your comparing your site to BBC?

Johan007 · 04-19-2004, 03:11 PM

Ron I am comparing the z review to the BBC FOX and EMPIRE!

Rob I have changed the titles to see if it has any effect, but I cant really change the url to include the title.

Rob · 04-20-2004, 02:09 AM

Your review page just got a PR5.

How did that happen?

Rob · 04-20-2004, 02:12 AM

Okay this is strange.

When I click on your review page of The Girl Next Door in the search results, it has no PR.
When I browse your website and click on the The Girl Next Door link, the page has a PR5.

Johan007 · 04-20-2004, 03:20 AM

Thats Google predicted PR you are seeing cos you navigated down from a page on the site with PR.

All my new reviews get a PR of 5 until they get old and drop to PR 2 to 4.

Type in the keywords "The Girl Next Door" into your google tool bar and use the highlighter pen in the google tool bar and view the reviews! - Keyword spamming is starting to work for those lesser sites.

Rob · 04-20-2004, 03:59 AM

Predicted PR? Never heard of that before.

Johan007 · 04-20-2004, 04:29 AM

sure it has been around some time ago on this forum but I cant find where.

Rob · 04-20-2004, 04:46 AM

So.. why doesn't that work on, for example, www.free-screen-savers.to ?

The main page has a PR5. The subpages have nothing. No matter how you browse.

Johan007 · 04-20-2004, 05:53 AM

cos non of the pages have PR yet apart from the homepage - so I think Google cant predict a PR cos it needs the the bottom level pages as well as the homepage IMO.

Rob · 04-20-2004, 07:48 AM

I see.

I should've stopped trying to understand Google long ago

Johan007 · 04-20-2004, 08:12 AM

After this I think we understand google better than most people m8.