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Old 11-05-2007, 08:09 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Google wouldn't have it as a feature on their toolbar if it was really meaningless. It tells us a lot about how important Google thinks any page is, and things like the dmoz + google directories are ordered according to only PR even if SERPS have endless other factors.
Yes, I agree. PR is still have meaning but not as important as SERP.
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Maybe PR is the decoy Google is using to sway people's attention away from something else! I don't really understand Google and how they weigh the strength of a domain. Even though my old website had thousands of links dropped from it (Causing it to go from PR6 to PR5), it STILL ranks so well for some strong terms.

It makes me think that PR means nothing to the strength of the sites linking to you and their anchor text.
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Old 11-11-2007, 08:05 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Why V7N forum is still PR3 ? inspite of the fact it is Google's favourite ...I searched for The Keyword 'webmaster forums ' and it showed me good results for V7N --its on third position & DP is on 6th position which is PR6 ..what you Guys think about it?
V7N is not the only forum that is sitting on a PR3 actually, it just means that Google is downplaying forums in PR. Personally I'm guessing that V7N just has gotten a bit more quieter in comparison to its earlier years. I don't know this for certain though.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I Have one Blog for which I bough one PR5 Link,after PR undation that blog becomes PR 3 while my one another blog for which I bought a lot of Links Remains on PR3 ..Don't know what the F*** these people are doing!
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
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It makes me think that PR means nothing...
be fair now. nothing is a bit of an exaggeration, right?

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I Have one Blog for which I bough one PR5 Link,after PR undation that blog becomes PR 3 while my one another blog for which I bought a lot of Links Remains on PR3 ..Don't know what the F*** these people are doing!
I think the blog for which u bought a lot of links either needs to wait till next update or the links are sitewide or irrelevant to the pages they're on...etc. Google devalues links in various anti-spam strategies, but if you find the right site to get links from, you'll be successful
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Forget about PR - it is pretty much meaningless
I agree with you to some extent, but even being meaningless, it still reflects some correllation.

But still v7n is on the 5th and 6th position when searching for "webmaster forum" and on the 11th when looking for "John Scott"
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:47 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Forget about PR - it is pretty much meaningless
I know you want a high PR too as others want... How could you say such thing. It is one of Google's algorithm for you information...

If it is meaningless as you say then Google must have not created it. What do you think?
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:58 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I know you want a high PR too as others want
I do NOT want high PR for example. What I want is traffic. F*ck PR, traffic is what brings customers who buy products, who click on ads, etc..

When will you people get it???
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:17 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I do NOT want high PR for example. What I want is traffic. F*ck PR, traffic is what brings customers who buy products, who click on ads, etc..

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Old 11-12-2007, 09:00 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Will you Buy a Link on My PR0 Site for xxx$ ? though it has a 10,000+ uniquesHuH
I do NOT buy links! Maybe it's a common business from your point of view, but my primary site received 93K visits during the last 30 days without even 1 bought link.

So sell your links, sell them... I am not the one who is looking for paid links . A content of good quality gets links itself. My site is mentioned in Wikipedia, DMOZ (both of them multiple times) and on another 5K sites...
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:27 AM   #31 (permalink)
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PageRank is just one of the Google's model of making more money for themselves ! haha... and also it is only one of the factors affecting SERP's
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The heart of our software is PageRank, a system for ranking web pages’ that provides’ the basis for all of our web search tools
PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page’s value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves “important” weigh more heavily and help to make other pages “important .....source
So,High PR will give you Better Ranking in Search Engine ..Got IT!!
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:42 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Google Defines PR Like This

So,High PR will give you Better Ranking in Search Engine ..Got IT!!
Do you really believe what you wrote? If you do so, then you don't know anything about improving positions in Google.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:59 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Forget about PR - it is pretty much meaningless
well said, espcially for forums.. PR wroks only in paid directories to boost up link sales.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:20 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Who really wants high PR - Peoples who wants to sell links. Google PR is a factor or issue for them only.
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You are right "mit". and

For my site Traffic is the main thing rather than PR ...

I concentrate on gaining more and more traffic and not that much on getting high PR.
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That's good...- more and more traffic - but should be relevant...
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But SERPS do have so many factors, and Google is only half of the industry. If you get blacklisted by Google altogether it's still only 50% down. Other engines might check to see if you're blacklisted by Google before taking you out of their own SERPS, but there's still a lot of money to be made even if you're only coming through one of the big 3 engines.

So I guess PR matters in different amounts to different kinds of websites.
Your guess is as good as mine but I know mine is the best! Google is pushing their limits.

Google can reduce the PR of this site but they can never control the traffic that flows in this forum. This traffic is the contribution of you and the other forum members like you and me.

As for me, I love this forum and will still post here together with my signature very proudly. Google has a problem with that, settle it with my adsense account (I have none)
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PageRank is just one of the Google's model of making more money for themselves ! haha... and also it is only one of the factors affecting SERP's
Couldn't have said it any better.
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