Do these links help our site's rank?

realestate · 05-05-2004, 10:54 PM

Here is our site http://www.house.info

We have links from:

http://www.bs-domains.com
http://www.votedean.com
http://www.stardouble.com
http://www.urlpick.com
http://www.adlenterprises.com/
http://house.bravehost.com

All these have PR 4-6, except the last one; but only the first one appears to be linking to us on google; http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...=Google+Search

Why so? Any problem with links on those sites?
Thanks for your time & expertise.

clasione · 05-06-2004, 01:51 AM

They all look pretty good.....

Couple PR5's and a PR6

Not bad...

Except:

http://house.bravehost.com/

subdomain & PR0 - I didn't even try and find it.....

You might be able to squeeze a PR 5 out of those - but you should atleast have a PR4 soon....

mjm1905 · 05-06-2004, 10:59 AM

Using a subdomain will prevent higher rank?

clasione · 05-06-2004, 08:50 PM

There losing there value.... Subdomains used to be the hottest thing since sliced bread - but google caught on to the idea of stuffing keywords in the sub name inorder to have keywords in url.....

majorkeyword.worthlessurl.com

isn't as good as it used to be....

mjm1905 · 05-06-2004, 10:34 PM

You got some well documented and valuable information on your site Clasion.

I have been dabing with a links script. For link exchange purposes. I readjusted my subdomains to point back to my base domain, not that I was able to get a great one of them either. Funny you mentioned that, I was so happy to see the subdomain due to the lack of available domain names.

To get to the point, here is what I am thinking after browsing this board and some of your sites.

Put my links directory on a subdomain. Reciprocate links between the sub and main domain. All outside links would go on the subdomain, keep the bleed of my domain down. Outside webmaster links come-in on my top level domain. Does that sound like I am on key with the Google optisation? Would still give valuable consideration to those who I exchange links and build the PR for my site, which in turn would increase the rank for the subdomain.

clasione · 05-08-2004, 09:28 AM

You can do it a number of ways...

Just make sure you get links into the subdomains themselves with the main domain. Make sure you link to the subdomains from the main domain and back.

awall19 · 05-08-2004, 02:22 PM

I am currently going through my site to rewrite the content. I am placing links at the end of the content pages in the articles as it makes the site more useful and adds value to the site.

Link exchange for the sake of exchange might be corralled into a directory somewhere, but when possible it is cool to link to good stuff from within your pages. I think many people use a subdirectory or other website to do their link exchanges.

Johan007 · 05-08-2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mjm1905

Using a subdomain will prevent higher rank?

I have seen too many examples of subdomain spamming on Google. You cant beat good old link exchange and a listing in a goodWeb directory to boost your ranking.

mjm1905 · 05-09-2004, 08:55 AM

I went back to all the places that I advertised, thus far, and asked them to alter my ad within their directory to point to the parent doamin (hope they do, spent a couple bucks on that). Would it be advisable to shut down the subdomain?

At the moment, it leads to the same page as my URL. I am afraid this would appear to be spam. On the other hand, I hate to loose the money I spent for online advertising of the site.

awall19 · 05-09-2004, 04:25 PM

I see no reason to shut down a subdomain unless you are no longer planning on maintaining it. if you no longer want to maintain the subdomain then do a 301 redirect to send its link popularity to the home page of your site.

google has been very good with 301 redirects recently according to a friend of mine who is a hight level editor for the virtual library.

Yahoo! is a bit shakey on 301 redirects sometimes.

mjm1905 · 05-09-2004, 08:02 PM

I was under the impression, from some of the postings, that having a www. is better than subdomain.

I had promoted lightly with my last advertising run, using the sub-domain. Basically, I ran into a problem getting the www. that I wanted. I have read the search engine traffic is heavily influenced by your web address. With that in mind, when I saw the sub-domain feature on my site, it appeared to be the perfect way to get the keyword I want for my business into an address.

From what I read in here and some other places, I would be better off leaving it at the www.anything, than using the subdomain. Am I getting the wrong impression of this?

awall19 · 05-09-2004, 09:01 PM

you should have a primary promotable domain and then it is ok to have subdomains off of it.

the problem with subdomains is that it is harder to list a subdomain in some directories and like sites which would far rather place a root level domain in them.

you can make up for this by buying or renting links to a subdomain, but generally it is far easier to promote a domain than a subdomain.

the subdomains can stem off as extensions for unique ideas (I think the About network is organized this way), but it is far easier to promote a regular domain than a subdomain off the start imho

mjm1905 · 05-12-2004, 12:30 PM

That was interesting and useful awall19,

I Apreciate it. Really confusing starting out new with this. On the same note, it is so important to the success of an online business.

I can not seem to get past the PR 4 mark. Seems like I been hung on that number for several weeks now. Hitting that number was almost instant. I see tops of 20 - 40 hits a month from Search Engien traffic at the moment. How much traffic should I expect when I cross that hurtle?

awall19 · 05-12-2004, 01:20 PM

a few good links can get a site to a pr4 out of the gate. pr5 is still pretty easy. pr6 a bit harder. pr7 pretty hard. pr8 needs link buying, a great idea, or some great partnerships.

don't concentrate on pagerank as the end all be all of your rankings. it plays a role, but the words in the links are super important. just keep getting links and doing cool stuff which will get more people to link to you. your traffic will continue to go up over time if you keep working hard at it.

also the viewed pagerank is just an estimate. a high 7 is way different than a low 7. the scale is logarithmic in nature. and the indicated pagerank is what your pagerank was after google's last update. it may not reflect your current pagerank as it could go up or down based on how hard you have been working at getting links.

realestate · 05-14-2004, 12:07 PM

the link i purchased from votedean.com is actually under frames, so only contribution comes from the actual site (freewebs/..) which has rank 3.

I don't know what is wrong with www.stardouble.com. It is not framed, and our logo+link is at the top, but it doesn't help with rank. It has PR6, but link:www.house.info doesn't give any results about stardouble site.

awall19 · 05-14-2004, 12:25 PM

how long have you had that link for?

realestate · 05-15-2004, 02:59 PM

1 month.

awall19 · 05-15-2004, 03:19 PM

google is due for an update soon

wait until the next update. if you dont see an increase in pagerank by that point then you are probably not going to see one from that link.

i prefer to try to get text links vice banner ads usually

Tariel Zivzivadze · 05-17-2004, 02:30 AM

Realestate,

One thing I think is very important.

When searching for backlinks to your site I found no links from the iside pages of your site. All the pages of your site should have a link to the main domain - http://www.house.info/.

As soon as you do that I think you will get a PR 5 minimum.

(I have the same experience)

awall19 · 05-17-2004, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tariel Zivzivadze

When searching for backlinks to your site I found no links from the iside pages of your site. All the pages of your site should have a link to the main domain - http://www.house.info/.

As soon as you do that I think you will get a PR 5 minimum.

Internal backlinks do not usually show unless they are PR 4 or above. They still add to your pagerank though.

Just by linking all of your internal pages back to the home page you are not guaranteed a PageRank 5. PageRank is a measure of link popularity across the web. The best way to acquire PageRank is to get other sites to link to you. I do recommend a static text link from every page of your site that points to the home page with optimized anchor text though (using breadcrumb navigation or footer text links).