Waiting for PageRank

manse · 05-18-2004, 02:02 AM

Hi all,

I wonder if anyone can help me out. I've been using Arelis 4 for about 5 weeks now (I'd be happy to pass my experiences of the software on if anyone wants to know about them) and I have had 9 sites agree to link back.

I checked today and of the 9 who agreed to link, two had PRs of 3, one of 4, one of 5 and on the rest I could find a link at all. As yet, no sign of a page rank on my site www.property-hunter.com

I know it takes time for the links to be credited by Google but I wondered if this is what I would have expected.

I guess like everyone else, I think the site is decent and it's frustrating it's the best kept secret on the web :wink:

Thanks for any advice.

awall19 · 05-18-2004, 06:04 AM

it can take a little while. make sure you submit your site to directories too. every link you get does not need to be reciprocated.

also please take one of your links out of your sig (two link max)

ccb056 · 05-18-2004, 03:20 PM

Google updates it's Link/PR index about once every 3 weeks, also, when you search for links, Google will usually only show the one's with PR4 or above.

RonHollingsworth · 05-18-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by awall19

Make sure you submit your site to directories too.

Yeah, check out our list of directories

jsanborn · 05-18-2004, 09:36 PM

I use this site and it really works well for reciprocating links. I also used Arelis for a while but it took a while to find sites with high PR, and it would also take a while to find new websites to trade with. The only thing I do like about Arelis is that it finds email addresses for you that would not usually be listed on the site.

Some people frown upon linksmanager because they think it is a "linkfarm"(which google frowns upon), but it is not a linkfarm. It is just another linking software that is all done online. It makes it very easy to add links pages and add new links. Everything is automated for you. You can try it free for one month and then it is $19.95 per website per month, which can be high if you have a bunch of sites, but you can also put a referral link on you links page and when you get new members to sign up for it you get one free month. I do not have any free months yet so this is my attempt to try a link here :wink: Linksmanager.com. So if you want to try it I would appreciate it if you click my link to get there.

But seriously I am not just trying to plug my referral link, I actually wanted to reply to your post and try to give some kind of input. Hope I helped.

RonHollingsworth · 05-18-2004, 09:45 PM

If you are going to post an affiliate link jsanborn, at least say so.

jsanborn · 05-19-2004, 12:28 AM

Funny, Ron. As I see above, you did not say so, you just posted it. Anyway, we are not here to bicker are we? Also Ron, I looked over your site and it is very resourceful, nice work. This is coming from an amateur though so what do I know.

manse · 05-19-2004, 01:25 AM

Thanks for your advice guys - I'll certainly take a look at the directory list nd check out Linksmanager.

Okay Google only shows PR 4 and above, didn't realize that. Still I guess I should see some evidence of a PR soon then.

Thanks again.

RonHollingsworth · 05-19-2004, 07:22 AM

My link is not an affiliate link. I do not make money from web-Inspect. It is a free resource 100%.

jsanborn · 05-19-2004, 07:52 AM

Ron, I have one question. Is it true that using sub-domains instead of sub-directories has a slight advantage in some search engines. And if so, wouldn't it be a booster if a links page was created as a sub-domain instead of a sub-directory?

sweatnspice · 05-19-2004, 08:09 AM

I would stay as far away from Linksmanager or anyother "link software" as possible. I've been watching my competitors who use Linksmanager and their links have dropped from 300 to 30 and their rank dropped from 1 to 25, which is good for me. I'm not saying that they don't work, because they do, until you get caught and then all your links are bunk.

awall19 · 05-19-2004, 09:21 AM

automated linking software is a bunch of bunk in my opinion.

whatever bost subdomains may have is becomming less and less each day. if you want you can use one, but it is not usually an amazing wonderful benefit in my opinion.

RonHollingsworth · 05-19-2004, 09:38 AM

I don't use sub domains at all. I don't see the value. I do however use "sub-directories" as you put it. I think you are referring to a scheme like this -> mydomain.com/keyword/page-with-my-keyword.html

Is that what you are talking about?

jsanborn · 05-19-2004, 10:17 PM

Yes, that is what I mean by a sub-directory. A sub-domain would be
sub-domain_name.domain.com. I heard that the search engines consider sub-domains to be a seperate domain and since it would be pointing to the main domain, it helps your ranking. Is this not true or have you heard of this concept at all?

RonHollingsworth · 05-19-2004, 10:20 PM

Yeah, I think it is considered a different domain. So I guess if it were pointing to the main domain it would help.

jsanborn · 05-19-2004, 10:32 PM

I'm giving you some new and interesting ideas aren't I Ronald :wink: . Don't spread this around too much, I'm trying to keep it on the down low. Seriously though, so if I created something like 50 sub-domains, and linked them all together, acting as if they were all part of the same web, do you think the big bad SE's would think this group of sites were just 50 unique sites pointing to mine?

RonHollingsworth · 05-19-2004, 10:58 PM

I may be wrong but I think if it's the same IP then it won't net you any extra gravy.

toddieg · 05-20-2004, 01:10 AM

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Seriously though, so if I created something like 50 sub-domains, and linked them all together, acting as if they were all part of the same web, do you think the big bad SE's would think this group of sites were just 50 unique sites pointing to mine?

The subdomain links will definitely show up as backlinks in google if you link them properly (granted they have a high enough page rank)...but i think google will know that the links all come from the same ip range. i know it's better to have links coming from unique ip addresses, but couldn't really tell you how much weight google puts on this in their algo...

hexed · 05-20-2004, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RonHollingsworth

Yeah, I think it is considered a different domain. So I guess if it were pointing to the main domain it would help.

Right. All sub-domains are considered different domains and will be treated by Google as such.

Be careful when you have your subdomains pointing to your domains. There has been some strong evidence that over use may be penalized, however I have not had first hand experience with this nor can I provide tangable evidence as such.

Hexed

jsanborn · 05-20-2004, 01:22 PM

So, do any of you know how to use different ip addresses with the same hosting provider?