There is No Benefit of Google Page Rank - Page 4

jeehariya_85 · 05-07-2008, 03:23 AM

most of the internet users are not using IE browsers with Google TOol bar and they didnot know about GPR

so how GPR is beneficial for us

jeehariya_85 · 05-07-2008, 03:25 AM

i have also make a same post "there is No Benefit of Google Page Rank" in SEOCHAT forum. but now V7n is on the top and no news about SEOCHAT

both have same PR

so what is the criteria of this?????

can anyone explain me ! !

pravir · 05-07-2008, 04:06 AM

Yes there is no benefit of google Page rank and rankings are not directly related with PR.

But I think there is an indirect relationship exist between PR and high rankings.
We get high PR when we have high inbound links and High inbound links is one of the most important factor in SEO. So this way they are related.

DarthMall · 05-07-2008, 09:29 AM

So if I have 100,000 Links from PR0, is it better than 100 links from Pr6? any input?

Natural Elements · 05-07-2008, 09:35 AM

I am not sure you will have PR 6 with 100 links.

tdgac · 05-07-2008, 11:58 AM

It's been a bit since I've been in here (my loss!) but this one caught my eye in the News that came to my inbox.

Nice to see Cricket jumping all over this one, saved me a lot of trouble lol!

lajocar · 05-07-2008, 11:34 PM

I've experienced top rankings in SERPS without building links

fastreplies · 05-10-2008, 09:55 PM

Link is a link is a link

100.000 links from PR0 or PR6 sites made no difference because Google either
a. count your backlink from site with any PR or without
b. it ignored link regardless if site has PR6 or PR10

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**Cricket** · 05-10-2008, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Link is a link is a link

100.000 links from PR0 or PR6 sites made no difference because Google either
a. count your backlink from site with any PR or without
b. it ignored link regardless if site has PR6 or PR10

fastreplies

Unless you can provide EVIDENCE of this, I would appreciate you mentioning this is your PERSONAL opinion.

fastreplies · 05-10-2008, 10:55 PM

I am sorry to disappoint you but with 23,000 backlinks, I have more than just my PERSONAL opinion to backup my post. There are dozens of sites that missing from list but who have links to us.

Or you can Google for:
free listing

and I'm sure that you will get better idea why I say so

fastreplies

**Cricket** · 05-10-2008, 11:30 PM

This means very little to me, since the Google webmaster tools show all links (even if from one source) but not necessarily the weight that they give to those links.

fastreplies · 05-10-2008, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cricket

This means very little to me, since the Google webmaster tools show all links (even if from one source) but not necessarily the weight that they give to those links.

I am talking about links to AMRAY that I can find searching for AMRAY or better yet for AMRAY Directory posted on sites that are not present in GWT list.

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fastreplies · 05-10-2008, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cricket

This means very little to me, since the Google webmaster tools show all links (even if from one source) but not necessarily the weight that they give to those links.

Now you are confusing me

What wait are you talking about?

I said:

Quote:

100.000 links from PR0 or PR6 sites made no difference because Google either
a. count your backlink from site with any PR or without
b. it ignored link regardless if site has PR6 or PR10

Now, what is your objection?
Are you objecting the fact that Google will count link from any site,
or
you are objecting the fact that Google can ignore links from any site regardless of what PR site may have?

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auroinfo · 05-11-2008, 07:22 AM

Hey fastreplies,
Let me make it simpler for you. It becomes easier to explain something if you could explain the objective more clearly.

What are you trying to achieve actually?

1. Gather links easily?

2. Increase SERP?

3. Gather quality links?

4. Increase backlinks by any means what so ever?

And at the end with all humble respect......

Lets not try to be too smart here and analyze exactly how google algorithm works as counting links. Precisely speaking as far as we know non of the methods asked by you is followed by google. If that were the case then almost all webmaster's site could be ranking PR10 on PR war

Wait I would still be glad to discuss further with you but would expect you to be little more open in explaining your facts

Best Regards
Auroinfo

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Now you are confusing me

What wait are you talking about?

I said:

Now, what is your objection?
Are you objecting the fact that Google will count link from any site,
or
you are objecting the fact that Google can ignore links from any site regardless of what PR site may have?

fastreplies

fastreplies · 05-11-2008, 11:00 AM

Hey auroinfo,

Why don’t you instead of grabbing highlight from the last post and then try to shine your “wit”, travel back to my original post, which BTW is clearly point to the same fact “you never know what Google will do and why”. Then read cricket’s “proof it” post and then read post you needlessly chose to reply to and you will find that you just made the same point I made earlier.

So, next time if you wanna make a point, start with thread Title, read all posts from the beginning and if you have something to say, then stick to the facts and I'm sure you won’t have any need to ask ME questions that had nothing to do with my post

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**Cricket** · 05-10-2008, 11:46 PM

That still says nothing about the weight given to those links.

netdebut · 05-13-2008, 03:07 AM

All I have to add to this is PR is the reason why link selling exists, thus further inconsistent and irrelevant searches occur. I'm sure PR applies to someone's SEO efforts, but if I do a search and find a site with a PR 1, 2 and 3 on the first page, they obviously didn't have to get that high of a PR, huh?

In those regards, imho, I think PR is just overrated.

**Cricket** · 05-13-2008, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netdebut

All I have to add to this is PR is the reason why link selling exists, thus further inconsistent and irrelevant searches occur. I'm sure PR applies to someone's SEO efforts, but if I do a search and find a site with a PR 1, 2 and 3 on the first page, they obviously didn't have to get that high of a PR, huh?

In those regards, imho, I think PR is just overrated.

http://blog.v7n.com/2008/05/11/does-...gerank-matter/

fastreplies · 05-13-2008, 10:42 AM

Now, lets make something clear in here.

If you are talking about green image PR on GTB then that image and what it stands for is TOTALLY USELESS with exception to SEO companies and product venders and we all know why.

I am talking about PR that incorporated in G. algo and has decisive factor in your search results position, the one that nobody knows nor ever will.

BTW Cricket, both AMRAY Web Directory and Hosting just dropped from PR6 to PR4 thus making your argument about people with low PR is not applicable in our case

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netdebut · 05-13-2008, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cricket

http://blog.v7n.com/2008/05/11/does-...gerank-matter/

Hey Cricket,

Thanks for the info. Wow, that was like a direct response to me, hehe. Thanks. Yeah, it IS "crazy" to think PR is the only factor, but then again I never said that. I know, you weren't writing to me, it was just in general.

Yeah, it's only a small jigsaw piece of the puzzle, but we're talking about trying to put a puzzle together with over a million pieces and you have no idea what the puzzle looks like.

Not to mention... some how, the puzzle changes on its own. There's no way of ever figuring it out. You can listen to all the SEO experts you want and learn everything you can, but that's a lot of time wasted. You could spend years learning old ideas and concepts, but it changes just as you finish learning. THAT's crazy.