There is No Benefit of Google Page Rank

[djmc]

Bottom line: PR is a byproduct of good off-site SEO, like alexa or any other measuring tool.

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Originally Posted by djmc

Bottom line: PR is a byproduct of good off-site SEO, like alexa or any other measuring tool.

If you don’t mind, I will paraphrase what you just said:
GTB PR is as useless as Alexa’s Pagerank.



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[selfhelpebooks]

Google was built on PageRank and links.
It is stated in wikipedia.
So it must have some importance...

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Originally Posted by selfhelpebooks

Google was built on PageRank and links.
It is stated in wikipedia.
So it must have some importance...

WOW... WOW... WOW...

Wiki says, eh...

Can you please explain in your own words what "PageRank and links" means?


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[xboxgurl70s]

yes it's not important. hehe

go ahead enjoy the no importance of PR


while me and my earnings are enjoying the benefits of caring for my "not inmportant" PR

[netdebut]

Is that sarcasm for your voncore site with a PR1?

And oh, I've responded to your other post in another thread:
http://www.v7n.com/forums/google-for...tml#post856251

And... ohhhh, you're in troublllllllle... with Cricket!

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Originally Posted by netdebut

Is that sarcasm for your voncore site with a PR1?

@netdebut

Give him a chance, he will have his PR2 site in no time



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[xboxgurl70s]

hahaha i quoted it alright but not using PHBB so sorry for my mistake cricket, my new client is voncore, we are let say in "the get to know test out stage".

yes i was saying it out of sarcasm

[netdebut]

Yeah, and then see it drop to 0 out of no where. My PR was at a 4 after about a year. Then it dropped to 2 and then 0. Perhaps it's their way of quietly shutting me out because I'll be competing against them. Whatever though. I'll be starting some major marketing campaigns soon - without search engines and SEO. My Alexa ranking is floating around 80,000. I want to see it around 60,000 or less.

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Originally Posted by netdebut

My Alexa ranking is floating around 80,000. I want to see it around 60,000 or less.

Up to this point your posts sound very reasonable but... come on man. Alexa???

You will get information that is more accurate by reading tealeaves than from Alexa’s Traffic poop.
Get serious and leave Alexa alone for SEO gurus talking points.


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[netdebut]

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Up to this point your posts sound very reasonable but... come on man. Alexa???

You will get information that is more accurate by reading tealeaves than from Alexa’s Traffic poop.
Get serious and leave Alexa alone for SEO gurus talking points.

LOL, "tealeaves?" Ha, I use rice! Kidding of course.

My response above was also towards you. Lemme give you an idea of how quirky my goals get.

I'm in the US Navy. We are required (at my age and gender) to do 50 push-ups within 2 minutes, 42 curl-ups (sit-ups) in 2 minutes, and 1.5 miles in 13:15. The most I've ever done was 130 push-ups, 129 sit-ups and ran the 1.5 miles in 8:32.

Is it necessary? No. Just my personal quirky goal. Does it matter to anyone else? Not really. However, I do get free days off for beating all of my commanding officers. It's a reward almost all commanding officers do for us enlisted guys. So far, I've received about 10 free days of paid vacation from beating them, lol. Suckers. I don't even train!

Most people get out of the military (their first time) as an E-3. Some people are able to make it to E-4 before getting out. I'm getting out as an E-5. It's not the best advancement rate yet, but it's a lot better than others.

It's really weird, but I don't try to be better than others, but it's nice to know that I'm not the last one. You know what I mean?

[auroinfo]

quite right. We can never trust/reply on alexa

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Up to this point your posts sound very reasonable but... come on man. Alexa???

You will get information that is more accurate by reading tealeaves than from Alexa’s Traffic poop.
Get serious and leave Alexa alone for SEO gurus talking points.


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[Himalayan]

Getting good traffic/visitors on website and position in search engine result pages with targeted keywords are main concern for any website owner or search engine optimizer.

[corlock]

for me, alexa is nothing like a number that counts to millions that is senseless...

[netdebut]

Well, son-of-ah-beautiful mother... I should stop looking at my Alexa ranking, lol. You're right. I'll just count how many members I have, how much money I generate and how much growth we gain.

Back to work!

[snowbird]

Let's see... Should I believe the OP's comment that PageRank is useless or believe what Google says?

PageRank reflects our view of the importance of web pages by considering more than 500 million variables and 2 billion terms. Pages that we believe are important pages receive a higher PageRank and are more likely to appear at the top of the search results.

I think I will believe Google because I am thinking the OP is ranking high for possibly his full name.

Now there is talk of Alexa stats. Alexa rankings may matter to those selling advertising and/or links. But I don't need Alexa stats for my own site because I have access to the raw log files. My log files are much more accurate and detailed then Alexa.

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But Google never mention GTB green image, if you read what was said
PR Google has been talking about is a part of algo, and that part is unknown...

or maybe I missed something and you can point me to where Google says GTB PR reflect your real PR standing



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[Cricket]

I think that most of of understand that there is a difference between visible PageRank and real PageRank. I don't see where anyone is saying otherwise.

Visible PageRank is what you see in your Google toolbar. At this point, that has been updating an average of every three months or so.

HOWEVER, real PageRank is continually updated and continually factored into how the search results are determined. By the time you see a change in the toolbar, any effects of that change have already long since been included in the search results.

Google updates its index data, including backlinks and PageRank, continually and continuously. We only export new backlinks, PageRank, or directory data every three months or so though. (We started doing that last year when too many SEOs were suffering from “B.O.”, short for backlink obsession.) When new backlinks/PageRank appear, we’ve already factored that into our rankings quite a while ago. What Is An Update by Google Engineer, Matt Cutts

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Originally Posted by Cricket

I think that most of of understand that there is a difference between visible PageRank and real PageRank.

Are you sure?

Originally Posted by Cricket

Visible PageRank is what you see in your Google toolbar. At this point, that has been updating an average of every three months or so.

HOWEVER, real PageRank is continually updated and continually factored into how the search results are determined.

I hope you don’t pitch this sermon in my direction because I wrote one just like your long time ago

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[snowbird]

Originally Posted by fastreplies

But Google never mention GTB green image, if you read what was said
PR Google has been talking about is a part of algo, and that part is unknown...

or maybe I missed something and you can point me to where Google says GTB PR reflect your real PR standing



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My response was to the OP's comment that PR means nothing.

Yes, the toolbar data is not current. But right after a PR export, it is usually pretty darn accurate since the "PR snapshot" was taken 2-4 weeks prior. There is not a more accurate gauge then that, which explains why so many webmasters are compelled to use the toolbar PR as a gauge of a page's health and importance.