There is No Benefit of Google Page Rank - Page 4

auroinfo · 05-11-2008, 06:22 AM

Hey fastreplies,
Let me make it simpler for you. It becomes easier to explain something if you could explain the objective more clearly.

What are you trying to achieve actually?

1. Gather links easily?

2. Increase SERP?

3. Gather quality links?

4. Increase backlinks by any means what so ever?

And at the end with all humble respect......

Lets not try to be too smart here and analyze exactly how google algorithm works as counting links. Precisely speaking as far as we know non of the methods asked by you is followed by google. If that were the case then almost all webmaster's site could be ranking PR10 on PR war

Wait I would still be glad to discuss further with you but would expect you to be little more open in explaining your facts

Best Regards
Auroinfo

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastreplies

Now you are confusing me

What wait are you talking about?

I said:

Now, what is your objection?
Are you objecting the fact that Google will count link from any site,
or
you are objecting the fact that Google can ignore links from any site regardless of what PR site may have?

fastreplies

fastreplies · 05-11-2008, 10:00 AM

Hey auroinfo,

Why don’t you instead of grabbing highlight from the last post and then try to shine your “wit”, travel back to my original post, which BTW is clearly point to the same fact “you never know what Google will do and why”. Then read cricket’s “proof it” post and then read post you needlessly chose to reply to and you will find that you just made the same point I made earlier.

So, next time if you wanna make a point, start with thread Title, read all posts from the beginning and if you have something to say, then stick to the facts and I'm sure you won’t have any need to ask ME questions that had nothing to do with my post

fastreplies

gajendra · 05-13-2008, 01:48 AM

its true that Pr does help to get high ranking. moreover 100 PR 6 banklink with relevant site is always a bonus to get higher ranking, but these are the few factor which help us to gain ranking with these there are other facor too for gainning rankings

netdebut · 05-13-2008, 02:07 AM

All I have to add to this is PR is the reason why link selling exists, thus further inconsistent and irrelevant searches occur. I'm sure PR applies to someone's SEO efforts, but if I do a search and find a site with a PR 1, 2 and 3 on the first page, they obviously didn't have to get that high of a PR, huh?

In those regards, imho, I think PR is just overrated.

**Cricket** · 05-13-2008, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netdebut

All I have to add to this is PR is the reason why link selling exists, thus further inconsistent and irrelevant searches occur. I'm sure PR applies to someone's SEO efforts, but if I do a search and find a site with a PR 1, 2 and 3 on the first page, they obviously didn't have to get that high of a PR, huh?

In those regards, imho, I think PR is just overrated.

http://blog.v7n.com/2008/05/11/does-...gerank-matter/

fastreplies · 05-13-2008, 09:42 AM

Now, lets make something clear in here.

If you are talking about green image PR on GTB then that image and what it stands for is TOTALLY USELESS with exception to SEO companies and product venders and we all know why.

I am talking about PR that incorporated in G. algo and has decisive factor in your search results position, the one that nobody knows nor ever will.

BTW Cricket, both AMRAY Web Directory and Hosting just dropped from PR6 to PR4 thus making your argument about people with low PR is not applicable in our case

fastreplies

css25 · 05-13-2008, 10:40 AM

I would like to know how do you do that? As for me, I do not care about PR anymore, all I care about is SERP. To see my website in the first page of Google or any other search engines is my dream.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeehariya_85

my website is on the top page without any back links

i thin there is no benefit of links also

netdebut · 05-13-2008, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by css25

...To see my website in the first page of Google or any other search engines is my dream.

That's just sad. For your sake, I hope your dream comes true though. Good luck.

netdebut · 05-13-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cricket

http://blog.v7n.com/2008/05/11/does-...gerank-matter/

Hey Cricket,

Thanks for the info. Wow, that was like a direct response to me, hehe. Thanks. Yeah, it IS "crazy" to think PR is the only factor, but then again I never said that. I know, you weren't writing to me, it was just in general.

Yeah, it's only a small jigsaw piece of the puzzle, but we're talking about trying to put a puzzle together with over a million pieces and you have no idea what the puzzle looks like.

Not to mention... some how, the puzzle changes on its own. There's no way of ever figuring it out. You can listen to all the SEO experts you want and learn everything you can, but that's a lot of time wasted. You could spend years learning old ideas and concepts, but it changes just as you finish learning. THAT's crazy.

djmc · 05-13-2008, 11:54 AM

Bottom line: PR is a byproduct of good off-site SEO, like alexa or any other measuring tool.

fastreplies · 05-13-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmc

Bottom line: PR is a byproduct of good off-site SEO, like alexa or any other measuring tool.

If you don’t mind, I will paraphrase what you just said:
GTB PR is as useless as Alexa’s Pagerank.

fastreplies

selfhelpebooks · 05-13-2008, 02:49 PM

Google was built on PageRank and links.
It is stated in wikipedia.
So it must have some importance...

fastreplies · 05-13-2008, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selfhelpebooks

Google was built on PageRank and links.
It is stated in wikipedia.
So it must have some importance...

WOW... WOW... WOW...

Wiki says, eh...

Can you please explain in your own words what "PageRank and links" means?

fastreplies

xboxgurl70s · 05-13-2008, 04:35 PM

yes it's not important. hehe

go ahead enjoy the no importance of PR

while me and my earnings are enjoying the benefits of caring for my "not inmportant" PR

netdebut · 05-13-2008, 05:35 PM

Is that sarcasm for your voncore site with a PR1?

And oh, I've responded to your other post in another thread:
http://www.v7n.com/forums/google-for...tml#post856251

And... ohhhh, you're in troublllllllle... with Cricket!

xboxgurl70s · 05-13-2008, 11:48 PM

hahaha i quoted it alright but not using PHBB so sorry for my mistake cricket, my new client is voncore, we are let say in "the get to know test out stage".

yes i was saying it out of sarcasm

fastreplies · 05-14-2008, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netdebut

Is that sarcasm for your voncore site with a PR1?

@netdebut

Give him a chance, he will have his PR2 site in no time

fastreplies

netdebut · 05-14-2008, 04:21 AM

Yeah, and then see it drop to 0 out of no where. My PR was at a 4 after about a year. Then it dropped to 2 and then 0. Perhaps it's their way of quietly shutting me out because I'll be competing against them. Whatever though. I'll be starting some major marketing campaigns soon - without search engines and SEO. My Alexa ranking is floating around 80,000. I want to see it around 60,000 or less.

Himalayan · 05-14-2008, 05:58 AM

Getting good traffic/visitors on website and position in search engine result pages with targeted keywords are main concern for any website owner or search engine optimizer.

fastreplies · 05-14-2008, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netdebut

My Alexa ranking is floating around 80,000. I want to see it around 60,000 or less.

Up to this point your posts sound very reasonable but... come on man. Alexa???

You will get information that is more accurate by reading tealeaves than from Alexa’s Traffic poop.
Get serious and leave Alexa alone for SEO gurus talking points.

fastreplies