Question on PR

DaHLiA · 05-05-2008, 01:54 PM

Might be a silly question, PR 1 or PR10 which is greater?
Is having more inbound links the only solution to have a good PR?

ermonrice · 05-05-2008, 02:24 PM

The higher the PR number the greater the value. PR10 obviously has a greater value than PR1. PR doesn't only based on quantity of incoming links connectiong to a certain site but also by its quality.

TravisT · 05-05-2008, 08:12 PM

PR10 > PR1.. it is very rare to see a PR10. I think the only website that I am aware of that has one is Google itself.

MrCat · 05-05-2008, 08:26 PM

All backlinks that pass on PR (dofollow) generally help - even the non-relevant ones.

Your best opt for increasing your PR is by improving on your content. More useful, unique and relevant content in your niche. Once other sites sees the value in your content and link to it - you get lots of PR juice

dbinto · 05-05-2008, 08:49 PM

I'd take one high quality (which usual means decent PR) and in context backlink over 100 low PR and out of context backlinks.

lajocar · 05-05-2008, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHLiA

Is having more inbound links the only solution to have a good PR?

The more external quality links ointing to your site the more your PR

DaHLiA · 05-05-2008, 10:31 PM

This site has the list of all PR 10 sites
http://www.searchenginegenie.com/pagerank-10-sites.htm

And from what I see, I guess having a PR 5 or PR 6 is itself a big achievement!

lifeplayer · 05-05-2008, 10:43 PM

PR break down to 11 level, from 0 to 10, and 0 is the lowest and 10 is the highest

pravir · 05-06-2008, 04:16 AM

10 is the highest page rank one can get. There are several sites apart from google which has 10 PR . Visit this link http://www.seocompany.ca/pagerank/pr-10-pages.php

Basic behind the calculation of PR is that every backlink you are getting has a vote for you. The more links at your site the better it is. But all back links are not equal. Pagerank with a high PR has a bigger vote. Plz visit this link to understand how PR is calulated.

http://www.pagerank.dk/Pagerank-form...troduction.htm

Cheers

fastreplies · 05-08-2008, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHLiA

Might be a silly question, PR 1 or PR10 which is greater?
Is having more inbound links the only solution to have a good PR?

Neither

TBPR is nothing more than image. Let me put it to you this way
<img>PR</img>

Silly green bar that means nothing and in NO WAY connected to your real PR and how your site is rated by Google.

Forget about it and concentrate on your site content because after all traffic will be the only factor of your site Success. If you ask me I take traffic over PR at any time

fastreplies

txshellie · 05-09-2008, 06:03 PM

One thing to consider about page rank is that it isn't a linear progression from 1 to 10.

More of an exponential thing -- the higher you go the harder it is to get to the next level.

netdebut · 05-10-2008, 05:25 AM

PR is nothing. If you're using FireFox with Google's PR tool, you'll see that v7n.com doesn't even HAVE a PR! Yeah, it's "unranked." Does it matter? Mmnn, no.

I've mentioned in another post that my PR was a 4 just 4 months ago. 3 weeks ago, it was still 2. Then recently, it dropped to 0. The only change I've made lately were design changes. If that's such a horrible thing to do, then I really don't care about PR. Plus, I still get hundreds and thousands of visitors a day WITHOUT a search engine.

Every time I see "PR" I only think of "personal record" as in running. Now THAT'S something to care about. It's fun and rewarding.

netdebut · 05-10-2008, 07:23 AM

Correction to my post. Apparently, it's only unranked because we're in the forum area. If you go directly to v7n.com's home page, it will show that v7n has a PR6. My apologies in that regard.

To back up my point though, do a search in google for "webmaster forum." You'll see listings that are ranked from PR0-PR7. From my results, there were 1 PR0, 2 PR2, 1 PR3, 2 PR4, 2 PR6 and 2 PR7. That's a huge range of PRs, but if someone with such low PRs could list in the top 10 results, does it really prove its importance?

fastreplies · 05-10-2008, 09:21 PM

Very good posts netdebut

I wish people stop looking at PR as on God of Internet and start worry more about content.

fastreplies

netdebut · 05-11-2008, 05:38 AM

Thanks, fastreplies.

I just wanted to add that a search engine, depending on what market you're in, it's either a vehicle of transportation or a huge, digital highway to your online store. More than likely, the latter applies to 99.99999% of everyone who needs traffic to their site.

Without any real statistics here, how many cars are driving on the highway? Let's say the closest highway to you, how many cars/vehicles pass by your 'location' an hour? ... A LOT, right? Next question, how many of those vehicles on the highway, stopped by your 'location?'

Really? That many?

Those who are traveling are constantly stopping for gas, food and maybe even shopping. They never stop at the first one they see. "Oh, next exit, next exit," they'll say. Once they take the exit though, they're confronted with which gas station, restaurant and shopping center to go to. The business signs and pictures on the windows are their only indications of what goes on inside the closed doors. Sometimes, they'll go with the first one they see, or they'll go for something that's the most familiar and sometimes something they've never heard of. It depends on their mood.

You're wondering how this ties in with your online business.

Well, like a highway, people are constantly on the search engine with a destination in mind (some are just lost and drive/surf aimlessly). They'll do a search and come to their first page of results (an exit). Now they're faced with 10 different locations to visit (these are your gas stations, restaurants and shopping center). Indications of what these sites are is when they 'exit' and see the 'business signs.' They either enter what seems to be most familiar or would be most beneficial to them.

Not everything on the first page could apply to them though. Go ahead, do a search in Google for "donut." You'll find ACTUAL restaurants and then you'll also see wikipedia talking about donuts and a page on MySpace talking about a donuts party. Probably not what you'd be looking for, but it's there. There's a lot of irrelevant content when you're searching.

A search engine is good when a visitor knows either exactly what they're looking for or 80% set on a particular interest. For instance, if I'm searching for a computer, it's a good idea to search for the "best computers," right? Well, there's a site in the top 10 results about computer, science and math JOKES. Is that really something I'd be interested in? Is there a great chance I'll just drive past it? Hell yeah, I will.

Alright, this is getting long. I'll stop here. I hope the point is clear. Forget having a high PR. On that search with "best computers" I saw sites with PR3, 5, 6, 7 and 8. Let me just say, it's not very likely you'll reach that high and you'll be wasting your time. For those who are getting a lot of traffic from search engines, good for you. I'm happy for you and very proud of you. It takes a lot of work to do what you do... but how much work and time did you put into it?

I'm willing to bet I could spend less than half the time you spent and build more traffic than you without the search engines though. My traffic isn't from the 'highway' they're from the inside roads and people close to me. That's right, people who are familiar with my kind of work and become repeat customers. That's where the money is.

Have a great mother's day, everyone. Even if you're not a mom, just enjoy, man! I'm gonna go wake up my wifey, lol.

xboxgurl70s · 05-13-2008, 05:10 PM

i know a lot of sites with PR 10, usa.gov, opera website, statcounter, apple, microsoft, FBI, whitehouse website.

yes PR is not an integer and is algorithmic in nature, it's a formula for pete's sake, so who knows if google.com could be PR 99999+

the benefits of PR will make those guys claiming PR is dead or not a ranking factor CRY for mama. all they did is confuse you. i will just gave out 3

1. gets a tremendous amount of crawl rate, more crawls equals more pages indexed
2. gets a high vote for other websites, authority if you presume, you can boost other pages by giving them a link
3. your site gets trusted more by Google, making you always above the top % of your topical competition, thus giving you an edge from their pages when pulling you out to be displayed in the SERP's

Quote:

http://blog.v7n.com/2008/05/11/does-...gerank-matter/

"Google PageRank is certainly not the only factor in determining your position in the SERPs, but believing that it does not play a role in search results is simply crazy.

A Google feature that helps determine the rank of a site in our search results. PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page’s value. Important, high-quality sites receive a higher PageRank, which Google remembers each time it conducts a search. Google combines PageRank with sophisticated text-matching techniques to find pages that are both important and relevant to your searches. Webmaster Help Center

When a user enters a query, our machines search the index for matching pages and return the results we believe are the most relevant to the user. Relevancy is determined by over 200 factors, one of which is the PageRank for a given page. Google 101

How often does Google crawl the web? Google’s spiders regularly crawl the web to rebuild our index. Crawls are based on many factors such as PageRank, links to a page, and crawling constraints such as the number of parameters in a URL. Any number of factors can affect the crawl frequency of individual sites. Webmaster Help Center"

who says PR is dead? it's more alive than ever

netdebut · 05-13-2008, 06:31 PM

I'm certainly not saying it's "dead." You're the second person to mention that here. It's just from what I've seen people say, it's like they're saying PR is one of the most important thing. I am merely saying IT'S NOT.

You're saying Google has over 200 different factors in determining the relevancy of a search, so you're pointing out that PR is what... less than .005% of the equation, right? So how much does it really matter if your PR is non-existent? Just curious.

**Cricket** · 05-13-2008, 06:32 PM

@ xboxgurl70s - when you copy information from an article, please place that information within quote tags and credit the information.

[.quote]places quotes within the quote tags[./quote]

< . > added to break code for this post

**Cricket** · 05-13-2008, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netdebut

You're saying Google has over 200 different factors in determining the relevancy of a search, so you're pointing out that PR is what... less than .005% of the equation, right? So how much does it really matter if your PR is non-existent? Just curious.

You are assuming that all factors carry the same weight.

netdebut · 05-13-2008, 06:36 PM

Yeah, I figured she copied/quoted your article. I told her she's in trouble with you.