Reciprocal Linking Penalties?

[Gede]

There are rumours that reciprocal links are valued less then straight links.

Dunno if its true, but I have a great business idea if it is.

Triciprocal (TM) Linking !

Instead of A-B B-A

Make A-B B-C C-A Everybody a unique Link !

If they start to "punish" for this

A-B B-C C-D D-A

etc...

[fishfreek]

A-B B-C C-D D-A

Dont forget D-B and C-A

[RonHollingsworth]

Yeah it's called a webring.

[Gede]

Originally Posted by fishfreek

A-B B-C C-D D-A

Dont forget D-B and C-A

Sounds logical, but it would give B and A an advantage, pagerank wise spoken, over the others.

Oh, its not a web ring...

[ferret77]

what an original idea , i have never heard it before

[awall19]

I have partaken in a few of these types of deals in the past.

[Gede]

Originally Posted by awall19

I have partaken in a few of these types of deals in the past.

And?

Its a difficult thing to maintain. You need to have a central database controlling all the paticipants linkpages if you want to do it on a larger scale and only fully cooperating established sites, or else it will fail somehow.

[awall19]

I don't do it on a large scale. I usually have a quality vs quantity belief with people I am willing to triangulate with.

It is hard to keep track of if you were to do it on a grand scale. I have not actively worked on link trading in a long time.

[mjm1905]

I like it. I already participate in this type of concept as mentioned a-b b-d d-a etc.. type of scheme. It is logical. But I am beginine to question the no-reciprocal theory. I am finding back-end link exchanges with some websites. They all have different pages on their domains with links to all the same websites. I am wondering if it is the same guy that owns the websites.

But back to your thread. I think it is a good idea, and even a better one to claim a trademark on a term for it

Good luck with it.

[disgust]

you do realize that if this sort of thing is excessive and has what they deem to be a negative impact on the serps, you can be blacklisted, right?

[awall19]

Originally Posted by disgust

you do realize that if this sort of thing is excessive and has what they deem to be a negative impact on the serps, you can be blacklisted, right?

they have to find it to blacklist it. most sites are a very small fish in a big sea. also anyone going to that great of effort to triangulate links is probably also smart enough to ensure they get many external links pointing into their network.

[mjm1905]

I am cautious about that too awall. Very good point.

Also you have to be carful with your competition reporting scropulous activity to the search engines, if your doing something that is borderline.

Anyone that may be behind one of the domains involved would be more happy to report what your doing to trick them.

[awall19]

Originally Posted by mjm1905

Also you have to be carful with your competition reporting scropulous activity to the search engines, if your doing something that is borderline.

Google is primarily math driven. they dont care if people turn you in.

yahoo edits their stuff though. easier to get delisted there for shady stuff.

[mjm1905]

Awall,
Have you seen this:

Trying to deceive (spam) our web crawler by means of hidden text, deceptive cloaking or doorway pages compromises the quality of our results and degrades the search experience for everyone. We think that's a bad thing.

http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

A close friend showed that to me a couple weeks ago. Maybe I am getting the worng impression.

[awall19]

you can report the spam but they usually will not do anything about it.

google = math
spam report = try to refine algorithm

yahoo = edit
spam report = human review & edit out

[mjm1905]

I'll have to keep that in mind. Now that you mention it, I can kind of hear what your saying on their page, "Help us improve".

[awall19]

i am by no means saying to spam them to death, i am just saying that many people tell you to be super cautious because

1.) they are making money being less cautious
2.) or they have made so much money that they can just work of their reputation
3.) or they are ignorant and just are repeating what other people told them

i think i am usually rather cautious so i can't tell you where exactly the limits are. i have never had a page dropped from the search engines. i can tell you that most of the people that try to keep you in fear of the wrath of the search engines are trying to divert your attention away from something that is making them money or toward building their reputation

[charlesgan]

Originally Posted by Gede

There are rumours that reciprocal links are valued less then straight links.

Dunno if its true, but I have a great business idea if it is.

Triciprocal (TM) Linking !

Instead of A-B B-A

Make A-B B-C C-A Everybody a unique Link !

If they start to "punish" for this

A-B B-C C-D D-A

etc...

its a 'three way links"... where 3 domain are working together to exchange links. indead once i started a website to offer this automated three way links.. its too hard to convince people to use the free service, and i have to temporary pause the site, due to slow signup.

[oseymour]

I think the three way linking is hard to maintain plus I think its easy for google to detect these schemes.

[alemcherry]

Does three way links really work? I am not sure, google must be smart enough to identify it!