Do in-links from the same domain give rank?

[Dilandau]

I wonder what ranks better:

- an incoming link from the same domain and directory
- an incoming link from the same domain
- an incoming link from a different domain?

If a different domain ranks better, it would be a good idea to spread my site over different domains?

[mazsola]

I know that links from the same domain count because they show up when you do a backlink check. As far as which one is more valuable, it's anyone guess.

[awall19]

local links (same domain or IP address) are deweighted some compared to links from unique locations not assumed to be under control of the owner of that site

[Dilandau]

Great! So then it would be profitable to spread the site or alternatively other content of mine cross domains. I'll ask my dad if he hosts something for me or places a link...

[awall19]

make sure they are on different C block domain addresses, are registered through proxy (or anonymously), and have suffiient inbound links into that linking network from external resources such as directories or you could get delisted if you are too aggressive with it.

make sure each site has sufficient unique content to get listed at many directories

spreading out a site a ton is not something I recommend for people who are real new to the web

[tozzo]

Originally Posted by awall19

local links (same domain or IP address) are deweighted some compared to links from unique locations not assumed to be under control of the owner of that site

Question: how do you know this? is this based on research or do you have a document from google stating this? In other words is this your opinion or a fact?

[awall19]

Originally Posted by tozzo

Question: how do you know this? is this based on research or do you have a document from google stating this? In other words is this your opinion or a fact?

fact + opinion + viewed search results + common sense

the whole point of pagerank is to weigh the social significance of a page. you do not get an accurate assessement of how important a page is by accepting 1,000,000 different votes from a single site owner.

[tozzo]

be sure to note that when you post.... too many times people post things and try come across as if they are stateing a pure fact, when in essence it is just an opinion based on your experience....


While you are most likley right, there is no real proof that internal links are devalued. We just added footers and linked each and every keyword that appears in our web pages to all of our web pages and once google indexed them our page ranks and positions in the SERPs shot up!

So keep making internal links... they currently help us immensly.................

I would not use common sense as a defense... google is not that intuitiuve enough to decide if a link on a page is valued higher or lower based on where is lies... a link is a link....

then again... that is my opinion based on 11 years experience searching the net and studing this................

[discountdomains]

If your links is from a different domain it will make a difference.

If the PR of the page is higher and of a similar theme then this is the best form of link.

Clare

[awall19]

the localrank patent has the ability to devalue mulitple links from the same c block

"2. The method of claim 1, wherein calculating the local score value for a particular one of the relevant documents further includes:

forming a sub-set of documents from the initial set of documents as the sub-set of documents that contain a hyperlink to the particular one of the relevant document, and

removing documents from the sub-set that are from the same host or from an affiliated host as the particular one of the relevant documents. "


how strongly they are implementing it is unsure, but I have some pages that would probably rank much better if they were not deweighting internal linkage data some

[Dilandau]

awall, Please epxlain again in other words if you can.

[awall19]

part of the goal of the local rank patent is to remove self votes which artificially bost rankings

[scisoft]

Is there any proof that the local rank is being actually used for most searches?

[awall19]

I dont think there is tons of proof of local rank being fully implemented. the point i was trying to get across is that google does devalue same site links and will become more aggressive at it in the future.

[Dilandau]

I wonder partially why a same site link counts at all. It is not just stupid and senseless for human needs to link a page to itself and to make super-everywhere-leading menaus on every page without using a script and a script cant be tracked by the bot.

[awall19]

Originally Posted by Dilandau

I wonder partially why a same site link counts at all. It is not just stupid and senseless for human needs to link a page to itself and to make super-everywhere-leading menaus on every page without using a script and a script cant be tracked by the bot.

a same site link should count. it helps define relevancy. most pages only have links from within their own domain. most external websites that link to me usually link to my home page.

[Tariel Zivzivadze]

Íf on page has two or four links to another page, do they all share the PR of the source page or it does not matter whether 1 or 5 links go from a page to the same direction?