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06-10-2004, 12:05 PM
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How to get $50,000 from Google over night
Google tells to the public, that a page with a rank 0 may have been penalised due to antinomian content. For most siteowners this is an open defamation. Anyone who has a page with a rank 0 and nothing on it that he feels like being antinomian, may accuse Google to remove the defamation and to pay $50.000 or even $2.000.000 for amends. Even if Google removes the defamation now, it must pay itself bankrot to the Siteowners that come first for all the defamation in the past.
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06-10-2004, 12:19 PM
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yea..... right.......
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06-10-2004, 12:48 PM
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you could not possibly be any more incorrect in that statement.
one of our occasional posters here took Google to court for a similar scenario and lost.
PageRank is theirs to do whatever they want with...
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06-10-2004, 12:49 PM
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if you are interested in the
"google ripped me off and google owes me" line of thinking you might want to check out Daniel Brandt's website
google-watch.org
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06-10-2004, 12:52 PM
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I kind of lost the "sence" of the message on 3rd line and glad it was eddited out.
But i do hope that era of suing for something obvious like "One Click buy" or "how to sell on internet using auctions" will go away one day.
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06-10-2004, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by awall19
PageRank is theirs to do whatever they want with...
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With the same law I may set up a site and write "Bush is a Murder", "Microsoft spys out People", "Holocaust never existed" on it because it's mine.
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06-10-2004, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilandau
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Originally Posted by awall19
PageRank is theirs to do whatever they want with...
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With the same law I may set up a site and write "Bush is a Murder", "Microsoft spys out People", "Holocaust never existed" on it because it's mine.
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Ya. It's called Freedom of Speech.

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06-10-2004, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilandau
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Originally Posted by awall19
PageRank is theirs to do whatever they want with...
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With the same law I may set up a site and write "Bush is a Murder", "Microsoft spys out People", "Holocaust never existed" on it because it's mine.
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I have stated topics similar to your examples on some of my sites.
PageRank is Google's and your concept here is highly flawwed. I can make a ranking system and chose to ignore you and / or give you no rank. PageRank is Google's link popularity ranking system. Nothing more, nothing less.
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06-10-2004, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dilandau
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Originally Posted by awall19
PageRank is theirs to do whatever they want with...
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With the same law I may set up a site and write "Bush is a Murder", "Microsoft spys out People", "Holocaust never existed" on it because it's mine.
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you could.. but we got overwhelming evidence that the holocaust did exist so noone would give a shit what you say.
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06-10-2004, 04:35 PM
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Isn't the whole law an idiot?
You all aggree really that i may write on my site - because it's mine - that Bush should be killed? But nobody would kill Bush because everybody knows killing is not allowed? But defamation is also not allowed. How can it be defined by law in a purely logical way that at the same time any speech is free and speech that is against a 'more important' law is not free? This is 100% a contradicion. The nature of law is arbitrariness.
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06-10-2004, 05:18 PM
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laws are weird. just like google has pagerank we have forum rankings...junior member, elite member, guru, god, JS...
it is our own proprietary ranking system. google does not usually directly determine the pagerank of most sites. it is determined by other people linking to you.
it does not matter if you have the best site in the world. if nobody links to it then google probably will not find your site. it is not googles job to promote webmasters sites, just like it is not your responsibilty to make changes to their algorithm or proprietary ranking indicators.
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06-10-2004, 05:56 PM
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As I have seen the Rank of 0 i was shocked because this could mean my site contains something that google dislikes or counts as antinomian. Backwards I got aware that other people may see my rank of 0 and understand that i am a criminal. Google should make clear statements. A rank of 0 means something went wrong. It was litereally written on the google site, that a criminal page can be identified by the rank of 0. Pages that are not yet indexed, give no ranking information at all. The statusbar then tells "no ranking info available". If indexed, the least rank is 1. A rank of 0 means a criminal or worse designed page.
On one Hand Goolge is OK. On the other Hand Google leads leads to confusion, frustration, inhuman link tweaking and - as explained - to defamation.
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06-10-2004, 06:48 PM
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I am going to reference you to the original pagerank documents. from there you can gain an understanding of the system and how a pagerank of 0 means that you are not well socially connected in the web. it means absolutely nothing about twitching or defamation.
http://dbpubs.stanford.edu:8090/pub/1999-66
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