Playing with PS

Ricoool · 02-10-2006, 08:20 PM

Dident spend a lot of time on the hair, hate doing hair

before and after image

RobinR · 02-10-2006, 10:03 PM

Good Job!

Atom · 02-11-2006, 08:41 AM

Very nice glam job, Ricoool ..

Ricoool · 02-11-2006, 02:29 PM

Girls love PhotoShop, responce from girl in picture

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Hi Richard!!!
Thanks for the e.mail. I love the after picture. Thanks.
From now on, we should fixed all the pictures, before I show it to anyone.
Hehehe.
See you and have a nice weekend.
Kiss Jannie

JuggoPop · 02-12-2006, 02:35 AM

great job on the skin... impressive.

Atom · 02-12-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JuggoPop

great job on the skin... impressive.

Juggo, how do you do hair? Do you use a certain prog or have a certain technique?

I was messing around with the hair on Ricoool's pic last night and I tried using a PS plug-in but I haven't figured out how to really make it look natural.

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**John Scott** · 02-12-2006, 12:19 PM

I wonder how big and lumpy you could make her nose, while keeping it believable?

JuggoPop · 02-13-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Atom

Juggo, how do you do hair? Do you use a certain prog or have a certain technique?

I was messing around with the hair on Ricoool's pic last night and I tried using a PS plug-in but I haven't figured out how to really make it look natural.

well... it really depends on what you are trying to do as to how much time and effort is needed. One of the problems with working with this photo is that there a shadow of every hair on the wall... which in turn makes it even more fuzzy to start with.

However, there are a few ways to go about it. (like I said depending on what your end result needs to be for.)

If you are cleaning it up for printing, ie. photo retouching. You can use a nice little feature built into photoshop CS. If you hold your mouse down on the Healing Brush Tool in the tool pallete, you will see a tool called the Patch Tool become selectable. You use this to draw areas around the wisps of hair and then drag from inside the selection out to an area of the background. This is a trick I learned from a professional photographer friend of mine. This is still a tricky thing to use, but with a little practice with the settings and making selections you can make them just dissapear pretty smoothly.

If you are working on changing the background behind the person and need the image to remain large (ie, showing any mistakes) you will have to be very careful in selecting around the hairs and then adding a feather to the selection. I would do all my selecting before doing any removing. And as I always said in the past... just masks, not the delete key... or the eraser tool. That way you can tweek it even more after the fact. However... this process will be slow going. You just have to commit to it. and do it right 100%. Not trying to be rude in any way, but to do such a great job on the skin and then spend so little time on the hair takes away from the overall quality in the work... there is a huge difference in 98% and 100% when it comes to graphics. Even more so when you are placing those images in front of peers. I think with more time this image could be taken to that next level. Time and patients are the best teachers, hate doing something?... do it until you don't mind it so much. Or leave the background the same to keep the hair in tact.

The next of the methods most used is the magic wand tool. This comes in handy, say if I was going to reduce the size of the image down to a banner or header image. Small flaws wont show as badly and it helps when you are in a crunch for time. Truth is, shrinking any image will help hide mistakes. Work on and image at 1000 pixels wide at 300 dpi then when done shrink it to 350 pixels wide at 72 dpi and you will be amazed at the level the quality goes up overall.

The last one I can think of as used often is the color select feature. Go to Select > Color Range. Then use the eye dropper to select the background color... use the Fuzzines slide bar to adjust how tight to the hair that you want to be and then mask that area out. You can do this over and over to get it exactly as tight as you want for your needs. However... this will require removing some selections of the same color before applying the mask and still adding at least a little feathering.

It all depends on the project and how creative you can get with the tools. I have to use all of those on one image at times...

Hope that helps.
- Brian

JuggoPop · 02-13-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnScott

I wonder how big and lumpy you could make her nose, while keeping it believable?

who knows?

Atom · 02-13-2006, 02:49 PM

I probably should have specified, but I meant creating hair. Those are some good tips though and I will be exploring those tools and teq's, thanks. : )

JuggoPop · 02-13-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Atom

I probably should have specified, but I meant creating hair. Those are some good tips though and I will be exploring those tools and teq's, thanks. : )

oops... now you tell me... now that I have blisters on my fingertips...

**John Scott** · 02-13-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JuggoPop

who knows?

Love it

Atom · 02-13-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JuggoPop

oops... now you tell me... now that I have blisters on my fingertips...

Sorry about that, Juggo. I'm glad for the info you've given though, and I've notepadded it. : )

JuggoPop · 02-13-2006, 03:15 PM

Atom,

To answer your real question...

I use brushes to creat hair... most of the time.
It's not 100% real, but it gets the job done.
Creating hair is not something I ever have a real demand for.

Of course, you can steal hair from other people as well.

Wolfman and bearded Jen attached have "brush made" hair. Helen Hunt has stolen hair.

**John Scott** · 02-13-2006, 03:18 PM

Jennifer is just perfect there. Don't know how you can make it so flawless.

Atom · 02-13-2006, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JuggoPop

Atom,

To answer your real question...

I use brushes to creat hair... most of the time.
It's not 100% real, but it gets the job done.
Creating hair is not something I ever have a real demand for.

Of course, you can steal hair from other people as well.

Wolfman and bearded Jen attached have "brush made" hair. Helen Hunt has stolen hair.

Right, now are these hair brushes commonly available brushes, or are they brushes you've created?

JuggoPop · 02-13-2006, 03:36 PM

I think I downloaded them about a 3 years ago... don't remember where.
But they are easy to make... just make some squiggles then assign them as a brush pattern, then before you go to use it go into the brush settings to make it randomly change color and size and angle, etc...

I'll try to get a better "how to" put together in the future weeks. With some pics and stuff. Might be better to understand then...

Atom · 02-13-2006, 03:46 PM

Kool, that would be great!

I remember this one artist who's work was posted in this forum quite a while back by Webmaster 05 I believe (Calisonder now), but I cant remember his name, it may have been Wood or started with a W, anyway, he created a photo-realistic scene of a guy and a girl, and he made a tut on how he did it and it was one of the only tuts I've ever read, but in it he described a very tedious and time consuming process of creating hair from scratch using PS default brushes, in fact he created the entire pic from PS default tools and brushes, and it was stunningly realistic. You don't happen to remember that do you? The guy in the drawing looked like Tom Cruise a bit ... maybe it was, I don't remember.