Paint Shop Pro Vs Photoshop

[Atom]

Can it be an image that I created in the past, or do you want fresh creations?

[scorpionagency]

Originally Posted by Atom

I completely disagree, experienced or otherwise. It would be interesting to see some poll results regarding this claim.

One would have to be completely experienced their self with Both interfaces / software's in order to agree or disagree, so I would have to assume you have owned both for a while now & invested the same amount of time with each in order to disagree.

At any rate, Yes it would be nice to see some polls on it. I see almost as many designers using Corel products as Adobe products & both swear by there choice of software's.

A software is a tool, most do have the same features & capabilities, they are just located in different areas & the interfaces them self are completely different learning curves to find the same tools as a different software.

A quote I like is: "Anyone can learn to use a software, however, creativity comes from within, without creativity, all you have is a software taking up Hard drive space!"

Originally Posted by Aramis;

Are you talking about the product as a whole or just vectors, if a whole and just the program without addons then photoshop wins hand down, if your talking about just vectors, I couldn’t say as I use illustrator for vectors, and have started to import a finished product in illustrator into Photoshop for particulars, which tbh drove me a little crazy lately

Umm, Photoshop & Paint Shop Pro are primarily Photo manipulation & Raster software's. Definitely not the same as any Vector based software on the market. Totally different subject. And for the record, while I am primarily a Vector designer & own a licensed copy of Adobe Illustrator, my main Vector software used daily is still Serif DrawPlus X2. I mainly open illustrator for cross platform compatibility conversions (Depending on the client & the extensions they need delivered).

Originally Posted by Aramis;

That’s an assumption, or corporate propaganda
Lets be clear this software is intended for Company’s and Professionals not John and Jill the standard Home users

I do agree with you here, that these are commercial design software's & not intended for the normal john doe. However, the intentions don't change that FACT that Adobe software's are one of the most Pirated design software's (Cracked & NULLED are the correct terms here, I agree).

To say that it has absolutely NO impact on a companies pricing methods is just as silly, don't you agree?

Originally Posted by Aramis;

That again I don’t believe Developers get a wage the company gets the profit, and they profit from there professional courses there books and training materials as well, while Adobe etc have justification in part for this for some people, they are getting too much like Microsoft’s attitude to professional qualifications, in fact there prices are TRIPPLE in Scotland and in England “don’t know about Wales or Ireland”

while some developers or to be specific Programers are earning clost to nothing, those ones in particular, can be described as "coding slaves" and there money is entirly wage based, and the trainning courses they go on, take it FROM that wage

You're forgetting royalty payments developers get (A% of each sale). Which a lot of companies still honor in a developers contract. Not all corporate giants do this by any means, they are usually to greedy & treat the developer as an expendable piece of rotting meat. alas, Their is however royalty contracts in the development industry.

Originally Posted by Aramis;

this one you cant Prove or Disprove as I don’t go around these circles in mass, even if I did I don’t touch the software side, and there is too many sites out there, and telling the difference between a real piracy website and a fake

Just because you don't travel in those circles does not mean they don't exist. Torrents & file share sites (even though they were not intended for it), Offer a Huge collection of Cracked / Nulled commercial software's, one can simply visit a few & type in terms like "Photoshop nulled" or "Photoshop cracked", etc.., etc.. to she that its a reality. Though, yes, I do agree it's quite impossible to Gage the exact number of Cracked/Nulled software's used today seeing that a Nulled software was gutted specifically to not send any messages to the software company & remain undetected.

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@ Aramis

As far as PSP goes, I'll do some google research tonight as you suggested & see what privacy invasion tracking methods I can uncover.

[krahmaan]

Originally Posted by Atom

Can it be an image that I created in the past, or do you want fresh creations?

I have old images too, but that would be plain cheating. No, I won't bar anyone from using an older image. But if it's 'old', it just may not be 'fresh' just to warn you.

[Atom]

Originally Posted by scorpionagency

One would have to be completely experienced their self with Both interfaces / software's in order to agree or disagree, so I would have to assume you have owned both for a while now & invested the same amount of time with each in order to disagree. (...)

Good points. No, actually, I've never even seen the program. I just felt like disagreeing. LOL.

Are you going to create something for us in PSP?

[Atom]

Originally Posted by krahmaan

I have old images too, but that would be plain cheating.

Why? Didn't you create them?

Originally Posted by krahmaan

No, I won't bar anyone from using an older image.

Ok. Either way makes no difference to me, I just wanted to know what your expectations were. (...)[/QUOTE]

[krahmaan]

^ I'll be sharing something new and fresh off the top of my brain.

[krahmaan]

Here's a little somethin' I came up with.

[Atom]

Nice. I'm not very familiar with animation, myself. What did you use to animate, ImageReady?

[3ncryptabl3_lick]

Here's something I did about 4 years ago.



All PS with the exception of that female Poser figure, oh and some of the more detailed clouds. I used pics for those. This was my very first full on tablet painting image.

It was originally designed for a micro site so the title was at the top, hence, that dead space. But I removed it for posting here.

I've no doubt in my mind that someone with the same skills as I could have accomplished the exact same thing in PSP.

[Atom]

*error

[Atom]

That is cool, Lick! I especially like that shattered effect and the red doodle.

[kristeejo]

*note to self*

never turn your back on licky sticky

[krahmaan]

Originally Posted by Atom

Nice. I'm not very familiar with animation, myself. What did you use to animate, ImageReady?

Yes!

I actually got started last night in regular paint. I sketched the dragon with the mouse. I wasn't really sure what I'd be making until the first line I drew. I said to myself "hey, that looks like it could become a dragon."

So after I got the image to look decent, I shipped it into photoshop. Where I added some filtering effects to change the texture a little. Then I stumbled across a nice color/lighting adjust combination I noticed that if I kept changing it, this would become a pretty cool animation. It took around 106 frames.

Last, I'm still learning my programs so I did the resizing in PSP. I've found that somehow it keeps the quality grade from deteriorating. I don't know why, but it just does. I've had avi/gif animations deteriorate in image ready.

[krahmaan]

Originally Posted by 3ncryptabl3_lick

Here's something I did about 4 years ago.

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All PS with the exception of that female Poser figure, oh and some of the more detailed clouds. I used pics for those. This was my very first full on tablet painting image.

It was originally designed for a micro site so the title was at the top, hence, that dead space. But I removed it for posting here.

I've no doubt in my mind that someone with the same skills as I could have accomplished the exact same thing in PSP.

I love it, good share, very creative!

[3ncryptabl3_lick]

Originally Posted by kristeejo

*note to self*

never turn your back on licky sticky

awhhh ):

[Atom]

Here is a creature that I created in PS a few hours ago. I created it from a Z shaped brush stroke and some Eye Candy smoke.

[Atom]

Here is what it looks like with a white background and no wings. The black stroke is what I started with. The rest of what you see is sharpened smoke.

[Atom]

I created the wings with Eye Candy/Fur and Eye Candy/Motion Trail.

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To make this, I started with a black canvas and drew the black Z shaped stroke onto it. What you see is just a black canvas after you draw the black stroke, but once you bring the stroke layer into Eye Candy (a PS plugin) and choose Smoke, you will start to see smoke plumes etc and thousands of possibilities, by tweaking the controls and repeatedly hitting the random seed button. I turned the sharpness on the smoke console to maximum.

[Atom]

I erased the top part of the Z.

Selective sharpening is required during creation, as well as Colorizing, Dodge Tool, Burn Tool etc..