Paint Shop Pro Vs Photoshop - Page 7

krahmaan · 12-30-2008, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WhatsLeft

Both PSP and PS are nice. It just depends on what one is doing and in the mood for. A couple of the PS filters are very nice.

However, since I got Serif PhotoPlus, that is the program I go to the most and enjoy the most. And it is just a fraction of the cost of PS, even when there is not a great deal going on, which is just about never. Overall SPP is very much like PS but somehow I just like it better.

I agree with you on this. I think it will all depend on the artist!
I think that with the know how, great work can be achieved on
programs as simple as Paint or PowerPoint. It'll just depend on
our expertise and preference. I first started on Corel Draw in 1994
back in high school. I'm still learning. I'm better with a pen or pencil.
But I'm enjoying the features Photoshop allows. I lke to bounce back
and forth from paint, photohshop, and powerpoint.

WhatsLeft · 12-30-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by krahmaan

I think that with the know how, great work can be achieved on
programs as simple as Paint or PowerPoint. It'll just depend on
our expertise and preference. I first started on Corel Draw in 1994
back in high school. I'm still learning. I'm better with a pen or pencil.

A pen tablet costs about $80. But because I have a number of Serif products, they send me deals on other software. So just now, they sent me an offer on their pen tablet for $40. I like Serif software in general, not just because of the price and all the deals, but it is easy to use and professional level. I do not publish just on the web, but I do print to some extent.

Level of expertise is important. I have no problem coding in NotePad. But Serif is easy to learn even for the non-expert, and what it cannot do is for only top-notch professionals seeking a finesse that something like Time magazine needs. The exception may be WebPlus. I only tried the free version and it was horrible. They say the newest version is quite different. But I don't like GUIs, only text editors.

Atom · 12-30-2008, 09:41 AM

I wish you guys would post some stuff. I've got tons more, I don't want to hog the thread though.

Atom · 12-30-2008, 09:53 AM

It would be nice to see some good Paint Shop Pro examples. I'd try it myself but I'm afraid I'll regress.

Atom · 12-30-2008, 09:55 AM

Now, if someone presented an exceptional piece of PSP work then I might not be so afraid.

Atom · 12-30-2008, 09:59 AM

I meant hog the thread graphically, BTW, as I'm sure you may have surmised. lol

Ok maybe I'll post a few more later, ta 'ell with it then.

krahmaan · 12-30-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Atom

I wish you guys would post some stuff. I've got tons more, I don't want to hog the thread though.

Hog? Post as much as you like! I said it was OK. I want to make some good vector graphics before I post more. You're more advanced than I am, but when I make something I like I'll post it. You know how it is, sometimes we make things that we ourselves don't think are good enough.

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Originally Posted by Atom

It would be nice to see some good Paint Shop Pro examples. I'd try it myself but I'm afraid I'll regress.

I agree with you here. I guess some are just too afraid to share some of their work... (scratching head)

Atom · 12-30-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by krahmaan

(...) I guess some are just too afraid to share some of their work... (scratching head)

Yeah, I'm scratching my head with that one too, I don't get it. Oh well.

WhatsLeft · 12-31-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Atom

I wish you guys would post some stuff. I've got tons more, I don't want to hog the thread though.

Actually, you should be able to find some samples at their web site. I like those found with the manuals, but I have to admit that PS manuals and tutorials use better samples. Nevertheless, what can be created by PSP or SPP is very professional, and easily can be at the level of PS samples.

However, I usually try out new software only when a deal comes along -- and then, I'm quite surprised. But the activation alone with Adobe products can be a challenge. Is it worth it?? Maybe, only for dedicated professionals in the publishing industry.

WhatsLeft · 12-31-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by krahmaan

I agree with you here. I guess some are just too afraid to share some of their work... (scratching head)

Actually, this is an unwarranted insult of other people. It certainly doesn't motivate me to post anything of my own work.

Atom · 12-31-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WhatsLeft

Actually, you should be able to find some samples at their web site. I like those found with the manuals, but I have to admit that PS manuals and tutorials use better samples. Nevertheless, what can be created by PSP or SPP is very professional, and easily can be at the level of PS samples.

However, I usually try out new software only when a deal comes along -- and then, I'm quite surprised. But the activation alone with Adobe products can be a challenge. Is it worth it?? Maybe, only for dedicated professionals in the publishing industry.

To be honest, I'm pretty sure that I could create a great graphic in PSP, I guess in the end that it does really boil down to talent and ambition.

Atom · 12-31-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WhatsLeft

Actually, this is an unwarranted insult of other people. (...)

I respectfully disagree as it is quite likely true, and not derogatory to any one.

WhatsLeft · 12-31-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Atom

To be honest, I'm pretty sure that I could create a great graphic in PSP, I guess in the end that it does really boil down to talent and ambition.

Absolutely, but also objective. I do not have much talent in graphics, but I understand the principles involved as relating to communication. My focus, talent, and ability is in lines of argument (at least for certain subject areas), which I do not want graphics subtracting from, but neither can I avoid their use completely either. It gets into quite a philosophy figuring out when and how to use graphics, in print or on the web. But now we seem to be talking about drawing as well as photos. Uh...this could go on.

WhatsLeft · 12-31-2008, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Atom

I respectfully disagree as it is quite likely true, and not derogatory to any one.

To say I am "afraid" to post samples of my work absolutely is derogatory. And to do so in the context of not considering other reasoning of why someone would not post samples only emphasizes the intent of such a comment. However, whoever originated the comment, do they have at least a degree in psychology, and can they cite scientific studies on people's motivation to sharing work samples? Either way, the comment was better left unsaid.

Atom · 12-31-2008, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WhatsLeft

(...) It gets into quite a philosophy figuring out when and how to use graphics, in print or on the web. But now we seem to be talking about drawing as well as photos. Uh...this could go on.

Yeah I know what you mean. I pretty much limit myself to artistic creation and manipulation.

Atom · 12-31-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WhatsLeft

To say I am "afraid" to post samples of my work absolutely is derogatory. (...)

Ok, I just looked the word up and I am going to have to agree. As to how big a deal it is, well, that's another subject.

Atom · 12-31-2008, 08:45 AM

Here is an example in the following post, not created by me, that was created from scratch in PS. I know how Wade created it from viewing a tutorial on his site, and I am thinking that this may be doable in PSP, but I'm just guessing as I know nothing about PSP, I've never even seen it.

Atom · 12-31-2008, 08:50 AM

Atom · 12-31-2008, 08:52 AM

Now that is some nice default-tool work.

WhatsLeft · 12-31-2008, 08:54 AM

Atom,

I did not find the link to your sample. If you have PS, I would not worry about getting PSP, unless it just came along. But like I said, I just like SPP for some reason. And I do not really use a drawing program, but I just downloaded Inkscape, and that looks very interesting.

Maybe the comment under review was no big deal, but it's like software, we all have our preferences. I think, maybe, this is a forum that I should visit and read but not post in -- but it seems like a nice forum overall.