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Old 09-04-2007, 10:11 AM
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Stolen Logo Design

Hello,

Need some advice. Hereís the story.

I created 3 logo concepts for a plumbing company in my town. It was for a friend of a friend. We never wrote anything up since I trusted this guy. I knew him, I even had a couple of drinks with him a few years back at a party.

Anyway, I posted the concepts to my website so he could view them. After several unanswered emails and calls from me, I heard from my friend that he thought my price was too expensive. After several more unanswered calls, I gave up. I could really do anything to get compensated anyway since I really never had a contract with him. So I ate the money and moved on. This was about a year ago.

A few weeks ago, Iím looking through my local paper. I see an ad for his company WITH MY LOGO. Heís been using my logo for a while. And then to boot, I see his work trucks, also, with my logo. Needless to say, I called him, left messages Ė with of course no response.

Now this I canít let go. When he first turned my price down, I accepted it. But this, I canít. Itís not even about the money. I feel like he stole from me.

What is the best way to handle this? Can I do anything legally?

Thanks so much.
 
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:32 PM
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Moved to legal issues.

Good luck!
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:22 PM
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There are a few things you can do.

If you live in the States.

First thing is gather up everything emails, that web page ect.

File a complaint with the States attorney. It's theft, but the trouble is proving it.

Sue him in small claims for the price you were going to charge plus court costs.

File a complaint with the BBB, and state that the company is using a logo they stole from you. Contact that newspaper, TV station ect. give that guy as much bad press as you can. Since he's a plumber letting the public know he stole from you will make them think he is dishonest, and not want to use his services.

Of course if you don't have the evedence to back it all up don't bother, it will come back on you instead.
 
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:27 PM
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Next time watermark all artwork
 
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:30 PM
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Often even threatening legal action in a formal letter will cause the clients to pay up. Ask first. Threaten second. Pursue third.

And wow, the old Blue Jays logo. Ha.
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Old 09-04-2007, 05:14 PM
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Often even threatening legal action in a formal letter will cause the clients to pay up. Ask first. Threaten second. Pursue third.

And wow, the old Blue Jays logo. Ha.
Eighties, and early nineties logo.
 
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:13 PM
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I know. I was born and raised in Toronto.
My next door neighbour is VP Communications for them and has both WS rings. Shiny.
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:32 PM
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I know. I was born and raised in Toronto.
My next door neighbour is VP Communications for them and has both WS rings. Shiny.
The good old days. I have that logo also.
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So this guy has gone to your site clicked save as and stole this lol if you have not put copy right or soemthing over the image it is your own fault and have learned a lesson from this so move on!
 
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:51 AM
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So this guy has gone to your site clicked save as and stole this lol if you have not put copy right or soemthing over the image it is your own fault and have learned a lesson from this so move on!
Sure, there's a lesson to be learned, but it's not a lost cause.

Have you talked to the company since?
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I have tried to contact him but he won't return my calls.

I learned my lesson but I can't let him get away with it. I was willing to eat the money when he told me he thought it was too expensive. But when i seen he was using it, i couldn't and will not let that go.
 
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Look at it this way, you leave your door unlocked, a thief comes in, and steals your stuff. You were stupid for leaving the door unlocked, but a thief is still a thief. Should they be allowed to get away with it because the door was unlocked?
 
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Often even threatening legal action in a formal letter will cause the clients to pay up. Ask first. Threaten second. Pursue third.

And wow, the old Blue Jays logo. Ha.
This is a good Idea.

How much money are we talking about.
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Send a written letter (keep a copy) threatening legal action. Also indicate what legal process you "are beginning to take" (whether you take the action or not). The more you know about what action can hurt them, the more it will jolt them.

Really hoping for the best for you.

Another idea is to take out a bigger ad on the same page as his, pointing to him as a thief.
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Old 09-05-2007, 08:01 PM
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Send a written letter (keep a copy) threatening legal action. Also indicate what legal process you "are beginning to take" (whether you take the action or not). The more you know about what action can hurt them, the more it will jolt them.

Really hoping for the best for you.

Another idea is to take out a bigger ad on the same page as his, pointing to him as a thief.
Yeah the ad idea is funny, again make sure you have enough proof before you do that, because he can sue you for defamation of character! That would be twisted, but if he stole your work in the first place he has no character, and would do something like that.

come to think of it, have a lawyer write the letter. It doesn't cost much for them to do it, and it will get a better reaction. The letterhead from the law offices of.............

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Ah that's really unlucky man

Sounds like if he had the logo on the truck and stuff that he must have had it re-drawn by somebody into a large-scale format so really i guess it would just be 'concept theft' but since it probably wasn't a copywritten concept i doubt you'll get anywhere. I'm not familiar with the rules and stuff where you are (or here actually ) but I hope the guy gets his just desserts for it.

Good luck man.
 
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:04 AM
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Do you have any proof that that logo was yours originally?
If you do, better put it on legal ways and make it sure
that you have all the proof necessary to make this
people pay for what he had done to you.
I think there are some countries practices the fair and play law.
Wish you luck friend^_^
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So this guy has gone to your site clicked save as and stole this lol if you have not put copy right or something over the image it is your own fault and have learned a lesson from this so move on!
No way! Artwork is copyrighted. Ownership is in the hands of the artist unless otherwise agreed. Send a bill for the artwork, say you are happy that he selected you artwork. No response another bill with administration-costs (mentioned in the first). Then move to legal actions.
 
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:07 PM
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Why keep calling?

Showing up at his place will do more than persistently calling and leaving messages. If you do visit, bring a lawyer.
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