Your Thoughts on Article Submission(Duplicate Content)

[ShawnsITSolutions]

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to take the time to get some other peoples views on a specific topic related to Article Marketing.

Today, I want to talk about Article Marketing, Duplicate Content Penalty, and Blog post.

All the article directories that you submit to say that you must first show ownership of the the article that you are submitting, by having it on your site in some way, and showing ownership before they will post it on their site. So most people will post their article first on their blog, and then post it to directories.

This is how most people do this type of thing, but then there are some people who say that this is considered Duplicate Content by search engines and don't agree in doing it this way.

There was a article several weeks ago on Google Blogs, that said they don't give penalty for this type of behavior and this is not what they consider "Duplicate Content".

Some people say you should post on your blog, and then spin your articles and get lets say "25 Different Variations" of your original article, and post those on 25 different article directories. We would like to take the time to see what others thought about this topic.

[solutionc]

I have just recently started article marketing again for my new site & have had a few articles published by ezinearticles. All i did was rewrite some of the content i already had on my site & submit to ezine. No problems with duplicate content or originality because i had to rewrite as an article rather than a personal blog or webpage content.

As for Spinning if you take the time & do it yourself OK ALL auto spinners are a waste of time & money.

The easiest way to spin an article is by paragraph not sentence. When writing an article write the same paragraph 3 or 4 ways ensuring all variations follow on from the paragraph before. As you work through your article all paragraphs follow from one to the next & you will have 3 or 4 different articles.

What is great about these articles that is if you have 10 different paragraph options. I am not a mathematician but there are allot of variations, all of which read perfectly.

[KenNadreau]

The article directories say they want original articles written by the author. I deal with article directories all the time, and unless its a directory that's paying you to post, none of them require you to prove you own the article.

And as far as spinning goes . . .

The whole idea of writing articles is to show the world you're an expert in your niche. When someone "latches" on to you as someone worthy of following for information, the last thing you want to do is have them find tons of articles all saying the same basic thing.

And finally, duplicate content and penalties . . .

Google views text plastered all over ONE single site as duplicate content. That's all they've ever said about it.

Having the same article listed on hundreds of sites is called Content Popularity and carries a lot of weight toward ranking and listing on the search engines.

But when you change up an article, you lose that weight and it gets dispersed on to each separate article rather than all together.

Now I'm not sure if my sig file in on this forum, so . . .

Ken
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[ShawnsITSolutions]

Originally Posted by KenNadreau

The article directories say they want original articles written by the author. I deal with article directories all the time, and unless its a directory that's paying you to post, none of them require you to prove you own the article.

And as far as spinning goes . . .

The whole idea of writing articles is to show the world you're an expert in your niche. When someone "latches" on to you as someone worthy of following for information, the last thing you want to do is have them find tons of articles all saying the same basic thing.

And finally, duplicate content and penalties . . .

Google views text plastered all over ONE single site as duplicate content. That's all they've ever said about it.

Having the same article listed on hundreds of sites is called Content Popularity and carries a lot of weight toward ranking and listing on the search engines.

But when you change up an article, you lose that weight and it gets dispersed on to each separate article rather than all together.

Now I'm not sure if my sig file in on this forum, so . . .

Ken
http://articlesubmitterpro.com

This is a nice article. Now as far as Proving you own it, that part is a bit wrong. If you post on Ezine, they check your sites in your signature and make sure your content is there first before they approve your article.

[KenNadreau]

Originally Posted by ShawnsITSolutions

This is a nice article. Now as far as Proving you own it, that part is a bit wrong. If you post on Ezine, they check your sites in your signature and make sure your content is there first before they approve your article.

Anyone who knows anything about article marketing will tell you to never, ever, never submit an article that's already on your own site.

Either your site is ranked higher than the article directories (in that case you'd be wasting your time submitting to them.)

Or your site doesn't come close to competing with the rank of the article directories (which is more likely seeing how some of them are PR, and so you'd be burying your own site in the midst of all the directories.

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But in any event . . .

Here's one of my tips for a successful article submission:

Write a good article about your topic, but don't divulge everything you want to inform your readers about. Then in your bio box, write something like, "There's further [proof][suggestions][whatever] on my [blog][website] at www.mysite.com"

Of course you can elaborate a bit more than that, but the idea is to get readers to click your link for more information.

Once they reach your site, then you can give them the full blown solution with the product you recommend to fix it.

So automatically you have two separate articles. One to get people interested that you submit. And the other to bring it to a close with your recommendations.

[jabo]

Originally Posted by KenNadreau

Anyone who knows anything about article marketing will tell you to never, ever, never submit an article that's already on your own site.

Either your site is ranked higher than the article directories (in that case you'd be wasting your time submitting to them.)

Or your site doesn't come close to competing with the rank of the article directories (which is more likely seeing how some of them are PR, and so you'd be burying your own site in the midst of all the directories.

I have no idea what you just suggested, can you please explain this further. how exactly will you be burying your own site by doing so? I mean even though there are article sites with high PR, does that really effect a website or a site page SERP? and even if an article homepage has a good and nice PR, how sure are you that the page wherein your article will be posted on will achieve the same PR?

[ShawnsITSolutions]

Thank You for your comments there. I will follow them on Twitter, and see what I can figure out.

Although, I am wanting to know how come two of my articles are still pending with the note "Your article was found published elsewhere without attributing you as the author." when it was just wrote by me and only posted on my blog, just like the other 25 article that I have wrote and published on there?

[KenNadreau]

Originally Posted by jabo

I have no idea what you just suggested, can you please explain this further. how exactly will you be burying your own site by doing so? I mean even though there are article sites with high PR, does that really effect a website or a site page SERP? and even if an article homepage has a good and nice PR, how sure are you that the page wherein your article will be posted on will achieve the same PR?

Google searches for the best of the best content to list during a search query. Part of this determination is based on the Page Rank the content is found on. So if an article is found on a PR-8 site, there's a better chance Google will use that instance of the article over the same article found on a PR-3 site.

Now the article is yours anyway, so no matter which instance of it Google uses, you'll still get it read. But the traffic from the search will go to the PR-8 site rather than your PR-3 one.

On the other hand, Google also takes into consideration the age of a document. So if you post your article on your own site first, Google will view that as the original and give credit (value) to it. If your site has reasonable PR, then you'd likely get the higher listing on the search results directly.

So it could go either way. But why compete with yourself?

Then there's another question you should ask . . .

Why would you go through all the trouble of submitting articles so people will click on your bio box link to your site, when all they'll get is the exact same content, or content saying the same basic thing if they do click?

No, its far better to write one set of more in depth content for your site, and then write "lead in" articles you can use to point to it.

Ken

[jabo]

I don't really believe in duplicate content penalties as well since most of the articles that I submit to tens of article sites are still ok, take a look at one of my article for example
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&ei=-nkL...fp=-dx2DTn7Pl4
I have submitted it to a few article directory and yet they all show in Google SERPs.

I wouldn't really advice spinning an article as by doing so, chances of bringing out an article that is interesting is low as it wouldn't be up to date. what I do is subscribe to Google alerts on the keywords related to what I need to get my self fresh ideas and write new articles for the site. I find that this has brought more traffic than using articles of the same idea again and again.

[baruman8]

Article is good for higher traffic. Putting them in the blog is a good idea as like some suggested. Also there is another thing is, not duplicating but changing some of the content whereas keeping the idea same would do a good job.

[kbeus21]

I think submitting an article to sever diffrent directories is ok as long as you take the time out to re arrange your article. I tried a couple of free spinners and had to rewrite the entire article so don't use these.

[ShawnsITSolutions]

Thanks to everyone that has taken the time to offer help and discussions on this topic. I am sure alot of people have learned alot about this, that was the entire reason for posting this is to get the question answered.

Thanks again.

[KenNadreau]

Originally Posted by ShawnsITSolutions

Thanks to everyone that has taken the time to offer help and discussions on this topic. I am sure alot of people have learned alot about this, that was the entire reason for posting this is to get the question answered.

Thanks again.

Hope I was able to help in some small way.

Ken

[KenNadreau]

Originally Posted by kbeus21

I think submitting an article to sever diffrent directories is ok as long as you take the time out to re arrange your article. I tried a couple of free spinners and had to rewrite the entire article so don't use these.

The guys over at EzineArticles posted a Twitter "tweet" the other day. It simply said, "If you value your credibility, you won't use article spinners."

I think that says it all

[marine841]

I think article writing is a good way to earn money besides this it helps to get traffic also as far I know. The idea of duplicating is not the right path changing the contents and then writing it will be a good one.