Part 2 - Tips from Chicago Search Engine Strategies

[TanyaMartin]

The next session that I enjoyed was Shopping Search Tatics at Search Engine Strategies. Chris Bowler, Media Director and Search Practice Lead at Itraffic.com, Laura Thieme, President and Founder of Bizresearch and Craig Snyder EVP of Marchex were the speakers. Detlev Johnson, President of Technology, SuccessWorks Search Marketing Solutions, moderated the Forum.

I have chosen to go over Mr. Bowler’s part of the session. This was by far one of the best speakers I had heard all day. Probably because it wasn’t as much theory, it was based on a client case. He gave detailed enough facts that you could understand and grasp the shopping engines potential.

Chris Bowler went over a client case “Barrie Pace�. A little about Barrie Pace:

• Barrie Pace offers women’s designer and exclusive career, business-casual, and special occasion fashions
• Sold $23+ Million in apparel online in FY2004

Barrie Pace uses customer email, search engines, online advertising/direct marketing and shopping engines to obtain sales.

Mr. Bowler then went over why you should use shopping engines. This is because you are placing the products in front of shoppers that are already transacting. He also provided this chart on shopping engines:

Source: Nielsen Netratings, October 2004

So far a pretty convincing case to why you should use shopping engines to promote your products.

Mr. Bowler then discussed the shopping engines that Barrie Pace partnered with. These were Amazon, Altura/Catalog City, Froogle, AOL Shopping and Shopping.com.

Next he went over some tips for the shopping engine newbie, these were:

1. Determine your financials
2. Crawl, Walk, Run!
3. Shopping Programs do not run themselves
4. Adjusting your feed is critical (a feed is a data file with your product details, product name, prices, product images all in one file, usually line by line .txt file)
5. Store Feedback is invaluable

Determining your financials questions you should ask yourself and analyze:

What’s your overall budget for shopping?

For Click-over Shopping Engines (pay per click engines):
What’s an allowable bid price:

By brand?

By product?

For Transactional Shopping Engines (engines that you pay per sale or percentage):
What’s an allowable commission?

Including returns?

Without returns?

How will returns be handled?

During the Crawl, Walk, Run part of the presentation, Mr. Bowler suggested you start with something easy to setup. Shopping.com he said were the easiest to setup, price and manage. Mr. Bowler stated if you can produce a feed quickly that setup could occur in a few weeks.

Mr. Bowler also suggested that Amazon was one of the hardest to setup. They require 29 forms to be filled out before you can begin. He also said it took 2-3 months to setup with Amazon.

Shopping engines do not run themselves Mr. Bowler now went over this giving more details, like if you choose 4-5 shopping engines to partner with it will take 1-2 hours of staff time a day. This is ongoing. Staff in charge of the shopping engines will have to daily go over the following:

• Monitor feed upload and product display
• Pull-down Store reviews / feedback
• Resolve customer problems
• Track Sales, Fulfillment, Returns

These shopping engines will all need to be monitored and adjustments will need to be made. He gave an example of some items using the same images. When you build a shopping site you can have several choices for size, color, etc. In shopping engines they list the sizes, colors, etc separately. So you have the same image for several items.

Mr. Bowler also provided a snapshot of feedback on Amazon. He stated feedback is invaluable and someone should be reviewing feedback often.

Mr. Bowler ended by giving some tips for succeeding:

1. Track results at the product level
2. Take advantage of operational and customer service emails
3. Shopping sites will buy your brand keywords in search – beware!
4. Advertising – more visibility
5. Partner with the newer engines

Notes: The following is a list of shopping engines that were mentioned during this session:
Yahoo Shopping
Shopping.com
Amazon.com
MSN Shopping
Froogle
MySimon
Nextag
Dealtime
PriceGrabber.com
AOL Shopping
Altura
InStore

Also mentioned were:
Bizrate.com and Resellerratings.com


About the Author:
Tanya Martin, Director of Internet Marketing at Over The Mark, LLC has been involved in Internet Marketing for 7 years and who publishes a daily seo blog

[gorillaboy]

Nice- thank you.

I get tons of sales from Biz-Rate. Which is totally unexpected since we're B2B. I would say that the MSN Shopping numbers look inflated.

--------------Sept. 2004--------------------

Called Pinpoint, AOL's new search engine combines BizRate.com's product comparison engine with AOL-created filtering, customization and alerting capabilities. As a result, the AOL engine is designed to be superior to others in the space by trying to guess at shoppers' queries and direct them accordingly.

[Atom]

Happy New Year!

[docquesting]

Happy New Years.

[TanyaMartin]

Happy New Year. Were you 2 drinking? :p

[Atom]

No, we weren't.

That was the problem.

[TanyaMartin]

I guess so

[Atom]

I posted Happy New Year in every forum, then a few hrs later Doc comes along and does the same thing. I have thread email notification activated so, I got a ton of email, and it's still trickling in! I don't think that I'll do that next year.. LOL

[TanyaMartin]

Originally Posted by Atom

I posted Happy New Year in every forum, then a few hrs later Doc comes along and does the same thing. I have thread email notification activated so, I got a ton of email, and it's still trickling in! I don't think that I'll do that next year.. LOL

Or next year shut off the email notifications

[Atom]

Originally Posted by TanyaMartin

Or next year shut off the email notifications

Well, I'm afraid that I won't recieve the ones that I want to. I guess the thing to do would be to unsubscribe from the threads that I don't really care about. I actually should do that now until they move down the list and get buried some, then I can re-subscribe. It's a PITA though, I probably just won't do it next year.