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11-24-2006, 11:46 PM
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I learn my lesson for buying traffic. I will never do it again. It not worth it. All those fake hits. It a lots of other ways to generate traffic.
Getting a high PR is great. Of course you are getting traffic.
The question is Are you getting Sales?
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11-25-2006, 01:38 PM
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I personally wouldn't buy traffic anywhere other than the major PPC engines (Yahoo, Google, MSN). Maybe some of the lesser ones like Clicksor or Searchfeed, but I haven't heard anything that great about any of those.
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11-25-2006, 03:22 PM
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I think buying traffic is perfectly fine depending on your goals. If you really want to stress your site to see if you would crash when you were up to 100000 visits a month, then go for it. If you want newsletter signups, go for it. If you have any amazingly convertible landing page, go for it.
But I think you are better off getting targeted interest traffic (harder to come by) rather than targeted region traffic.
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11-25-2006, 04:39 PM
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MSN ad center - Overture - Adwords = Best places to buy QUALITY traffic that converts into money in your pocket.
Everything else is crap.
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11-26-2006, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by webguru
I learn my lesson for buying traffic. I will never do it again. It not worth it. All those fake hits. It a lots of other ways to generate traffic.
Getting a high PR is great. Of course you are getting traffic.
The question is Are you getting Sales?
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Yep, I've learned the lesson the hard way too. At least we've learned, and now only focus on quality targeted traffic.
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11-26-2006, 10:52 PM
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Hi Dominator,
Would you like to share how you get quality targetted traffic, please? I am sure you have found the best way to do it. Hope you don't mind to share with us here. Thank you so much
MES - carcasherdotcom seocontest
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11-27-2006, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by miskandar_es
Hi Dominator,
Would you like to share how you get quality targetted traffic, please? I am sure you have found the best way to do it. Hope you don't mind to share with us here. Thank you so much
MES - carcasherdotcom seocontest
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Hi miskandar_es,
As far as getting targeted traffic besides the big 3 (google,yahoo,and msn), I have had moderate success getting some sales through goclick. I have had no luck with searchfeed, valueclick, and findwhat (miva)....
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11-28-2006, 02:51 AM
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Hmmm ... Goclick. Great, I can try it.
Thanks a lot Dominator
MES - carcasherdotcom seocontest
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11-28-2006, 08:44 AM
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12-03-2006, 08:13 PM
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Hi Jason...
Thank you for your additional info.
Glad to meet you here...
MES - carcasherdotcom seocontest
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12-04-2006, 11:33 AM
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I dont bother building links and stuff becuase it is just too much work and I am very lazy... For this I have an affiliate program and and commision that cant be beat...
To get more traffic then that because I am a greedy impatient person, I buy my hits by buying ad space in ezines. I am also growing my own list so when I decide I want to create a new prodcut I will have a list that will buy that product because they are loyal to me.
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12-05-2006, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by georgechristodoulou
I dont bother building links and stuff becuase it is just too much work and I am very lazy... For this I have an affiliate program and and commision that cant be beat...
To get more traffic then that because I am a greedy impatient person, I buy my hits by buying ad space in ezines. I am also growing my own list so when I decide I want to create a new prodcut I will have a list that will buy that product because they are loyal to me.
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Thanks George... I think you have a better way. Yeah, sometimes I feel so tired to building links and stuff. But I think this is a "struggle of life" for SEO
BTW, can you tell us some good affiliate links, please...?
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12-05-2006, 10:40 AM
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Google and Yahoo are really the only places I would recommend buying traffic from.
to the OP, if you are serious pm me and show me your site. I may be able to recommend a few sites you could partner with and may have a couple fo contacts for you. Let me know.
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12-07-2006, 07:48 PM
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As a traffic dealer, I have to say, although it is certainly not our main business, we have been successful with our traffic streams to our clients, but
as clients, we know that the work has been done and usually a little traffic push is for certain times , like now.
However, since I started handling this kind of request, there are just as many scams on the other side. You would not believe the amount of people that go from company to company getting free trials for day or two, and then claiming it was bad and moving to the next company, and do the same thing. ( not to us because we dont give trials)
There are some reputable services out there, and businesses buy traffic for all sorts of reasons. I dont see where a little boost during the holidays is a bad thing, if you get it from a good source.
You should be able to convert enough to break even at the worst. You also have to know what you are buying, how it is delivered and if it falls under the specifications that you asked for.
I always suggest that people improve all the other things first, traffic should only be bought when you have covered all the other bases completely, or else you are just throwing new paint on a rusty car.
Last edited by EBORG9 : 12-07-2006 at 07:51 PM.
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12-07-2006, 09:54 PM
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Buying traffic is the easy way out, PPC can also become an expensive venture if improperly managed. Your best bet is to generate "natural traffic to your brand" this is done by putting on the marketing cap and dreaming up a viral campaign that would appeal to the social networking communities as well as users of your product / service. Campaigns like this tend to generate semi natural permanant links to your site which helps with your organic search rankings and the cost / longevity of your campaign. I have an example here " http://www.southafrican.za.net/the-idiot-test.html"
Quite by accident this page landed up on the front page of digg over 17000 visits (in a few hours) later my ISP pulled the plug on the domain, thinking that someone was spamming the server. $400.00 in adsense revenue was generated in that period that it was live, but the thing that was of most interest was this a whole bunch of backlinks that never existed before. Since then domain has been ranking in the organic results for some key queries such as this and there have been consistent registrations to the free service ever since. In conclusion put on that marketing hat and come up with a unique idea, they are thousands of sites that offer "mens health" products, You just have to find your unique selling point, create a viral campaign and let the digg community do the rest.
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12-10-2006, 07:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by webguru
I learn my lesson for buying traffic. I will never do it again. It not worth it. All those fake hits. It a lots of other ways to generate traffic.
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Same for me. I tried it. It sounded too good to be true. And it was
Stay away from these websites that sell traffic. You are going to WASTE your money. Guaranteed.
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12-10-2006, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by adspace-auctions.com
Same for me. I tried it. It sounded too good to be true. And it was
Stay away from these websites that sell traffic. You are going to WASTE your money. Guaranteed.
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I hate to see you make a broad statement, like "if you buy traffic you will surely waste your money".
There is good and bad in everything, especially in this industry with the huge surge of "professionals" on the scene.
There are bad web designers
Bad SEO
Bad Hosting
and everything else.
I always see people buy general traffic and get pissed when it doesn't convert.
As I said , there are definitely quite a few traffic scams out there, because after all traffic is the most valuable commodity on the web, but some of the bad deals have to lie in the hands of the consumer.
There are many times when the buyer is not educated enough about what they want, or what they need, and opens themselves up to buying "worthless" traffic.
Also if your site is not converting well on the traffic you have, buying traffic of any kind will not raise your conversion ratio.
And, if you are lucky enough to buy quality traffic and your site is not of equal or better quality that the source, you will not convert.
You can't sell Pinto parts to Camaro owners, and in reverse.
A good traffic provider is equally concerned about sending visitors to a non reputable site just as you would be linking to one.
One of the things I have noticed is more than half of the people that come to me to buy traffic, are not ready for it. There are other things that need to be fixed first before they spend their money. Consumers are saavy on the net. Just dropping them off does not mean they are going to buy, no matter how many you throw in the door.
I agree with everyone here who said, fix everything else first, and then shop for good traffic. It wil convert well. Do you think it's luck that some people buy traffic and it converts well , and others buy traffic and get nothing? Traffic is not a fix, it's a boost when everything else is already going right.
All the points here are valid, but blaming all traffic providers because of a bad experience is not fair.
Anyone who sells you traffic without any concern for your desired outcome, or an evaluation of the traffic they are selling vs. how it may convert on your site, doesn't care if you come back for more, and you should take that into consideration when buying any service.
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12-11-2006, 12:21 AM
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Free traffic is much better
Buying traffic just makes the buyee money. Most of the people paying outrageous prices for crappy banner ads and PPC are just losing money. If there traffic was so great then why don't they just keep it to themselves.
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12-11-2006, 01:21 AM
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I hate to jack this thread but I just have to answer.
Believe it or not, there are some companies who have amassed a large number of sites over the years with the fore thought that, the more crowded the net became, the more intense the competition for page views would be and the more valuable a source of quality consumer traffic would be.
Some of these companies have thousands of sites, with millions of daily visitors.
Now, if you take the average rate at which an ad, pop up,or link is clicked on a web site by the amount of visitors to that site you can get an estimate of what you can supply. Also if you have a combination of domains pointing to the same type of site, you can supply the larger buyers with direct feeds, and still not loose any off of your average.
Now imagine if you had 15,000 sites. How much traffic could you supply to a small group of buyers, especially at this time of year, and how many categories would that traffic be divided into.
If you have built a diverse portfolio over the years you could cover every category of traffic from auto supplies, to mortgages.
A company like this could provide you with quality traffic, but most times they are not seen by the small traffic buyer because that market is saturated with a bunch of traffic brokers, that either have 20 or so sites that they have access to, or are attempting to broker off traffic that they have purchased from a large supplier to a few different smaller buyers.
Most suppliers of large traffic will shut down a feed to a broker if there was not an agreement before hand, because many brokers will resell to buyers that deal in methods that the suppliers would not normally deal with.
Or sell the same traffic feed to many different buyers, and hope for the best.
Some very large retailers buy traffic at this time of the year, and the risk is not as much for them because they deal with reputable suppliers, and their product converts anyway, they have already invested in all angles to make sure every visitor counts.
Most smaller webmasters have only read a few books on SEO, and some other subjects, and threw their hat in the ring with a few affiliate programs, and don't have the resources of years of engineering, market research, and national advertising.
So yes buying traffic does work. It's a very valuable, and profitable boost when everything else is absolutely perfect
When you buy traffic, all you have to do is ask a few questions.
Where is the traffic coming from?
Do you own the source of the traffic?
My site is "A", do you have traffic specifically targeted towards "A"?
How is the traffic delivered?
Is there any guarantee of unique IP adresses?
And then ask yourself, Is my site 100%? Is it ready for showtime? or am I looking for a cheap, quick, lucky, boost, in spite of it's known short commings?
How many people have come to me for traffic, hoping to make a quick buck to reinvest in the same site that they bought the traffic for in the first place.
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12-11-2006, 07:33 AM
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Basically, I readily support organic traffic which
is self-generated and not bought from various
effective marketing techniques online.
These may take some effort but the hardest part
is not doing it. It's the thinking part.
If you can master this - I'm sure you'll have tons
of great ideas and things to implement.
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