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06-14-2006, 09:22 PM
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Buying Traffic
Hey whats up
Has anyone here had any success with buying traffic? If so, could you post an attachment of any statistics? Google analytics?
I'm debating getting some but it seems too good to be true so I want to see some evidence before I committ.
Peace
John
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06-14-2006, 10:03 PM
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I sell web traffic. Basically its popunder ads. As you can imagine it has a very low conversion rate because many people close them instantly, but if you buy packages of 10,000 or more some people will take action. Since 10,000 visitors is 10,000 site views, it's also good for increasing your site rank etc.
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06-14-2006, 11:09 PM
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You need some fool enough person who sell "quality" web traffic 
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06-14-2006, 11:27 PM
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try to use network ads. you can use www.adengage.com
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06-14-2006, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluecircle
I sell web traffic. Basically its popunder ads. As you can imagine it has a very low conversion rate because many people close them instantly, but if you buy packages of 10,000 or more some people will take action. Since 10,000 visitors is 10,000 site views, it's also good for increasing your site rank etc.
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One of the problems I see with this traffic buying is your CPC is much higher than the CPC you'd pay through Adwords, except maybe for the highest costing keywords. You end up paying more for lower quality traffic.
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06-15-2006, 12:02 AM
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I think most of the time the purchased traffic you get on your site is untargeted and the visitors are not interested in your products or service. They are just paid to visit your site.
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06-15-2006, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by petertdavis
One of the problems I see with this traffic buying is your CPC is much higher than the CPC you'd pay through Adwords, except maybe for the highest costing keywords. You end up paying more for lower quality traffic.
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Actually, it about equal I think. I'll just do a rough calculation to get an idea.
Lets say you order 10,000 category targeted visitors for $55. If 0.5% of those people take action and sign up / purchase something on your website, then your paying about $0.91 per "click" [(1000^0.005)/55]=~.91. I pay an average of $1.20 per click on my google adwords campaign, so I would say that the cost is comparable.
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06-25-2006, 07:14 PM
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here is an interesting article I found about one way of "buying" traffic:
Manual Traffic Exchanges: The Ying and the Yang
The heart of the matter lies with the question: Are Manual Traffic Exchanges (MTE) a legitimate means of promoting a site, gaining exposure and increasing PR; or are they a means to artificially raise ad rates and promote click fraud? In truth, they can be both, depending on how the site is run. Before this discussion begins we must first understand what a manual traffic exchange is.
A Manual Traffic Exchange is called “Manual” because it means a live person must be viewing a site in order to earn a credit which in turn gets their site(s) viewed by someone else involved in the exchange. The alternative is an auto-surf exchange in which a person turns on their computer and leaves it running without actually viewing the site. For the purposes of this article I will not be examining auto-surf traffic exchanges.
On a Manual Traffic Exchange the benefits can be innumerable. The increased traffic boosts a websites PR, Alexa Ranking and increases exposure. Some Manual Traffic Exchanges only allow sites with advertisements on them for the purpose of “click fraud.” Click Fraud sounds illegal but is not actually Fraud, it is however against the TOS of most advertisers.
According to Adam Wiseman, the owner of Gimme Clicks at gimmeclicks.com, this is not the purpose of all MTE’s, or even most of them. “We allow all sorts of sites on our exchange at Gimme Clicks,” he stated, “many of which do not even have ads. Most of the sites on Gimme Clicks promote web services of interest to other webmasters and often don't have any ads on them at all. At the end of the day, our traffic exchange provides great exposure to a huge group of webmasters. They are the perfect target market for many online services and our users also tend to be entrepreneurs interested in various online opportunities.”
However, there is another side to the MTE world. Many sites actually state that clicking ads is mandatory. This causes far more of a moral dilemma, as in the end, it is the companies who pay to advertise that pay the price for false clicks. In response to this Adam stated, “Well, we certainly encourage our users that if they see an ad of interest, one for a product they may purchase, to purchase it from an ad on our site. After all, the goal is for everyone to make money; the webmasters, the ad publishing companies, and the businesses paying to show their ads.” He went on to state, “Our users are encouraged to view other users sites and hopefully click through a few pages on them. If they do that, then they are participating in the true spirit of Manual Traffic Exchanges.” He also stated, "People do make much more from their ads when they join an MTE, but as I said earlier, this is because they are a terrific target market for many online advertisers and so they do tend to visit more ads out of genuine interest and I believe this would be reflected in the conversion rates."
It is important to note that MTEs existed long before Google Adwords and this style of advertising existed. It can be very costly for a webmaster to get their site ranked high in the search engines, and this is an easier way to get the word out.
Wiseman declined to comment on MTEs that appear to operate for the sole purpose of click fraud. No traffic owners that were contacted agreed to discuss this matter either. Only one, who asked to remain anonymous made the statement, “Google has enough money, it can afford to throw a few bucks around.” This clearly however, did not address the issue that while Google may have seemingly endless funds, the business owners footing the advertising bill for their companies often do not.
So ying or yang? Are they good or not? Well, much like the actual Ying Yang, they appear to be two sided, and how they are used, is in the hands of the beholder.
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06-26-2006, 11:30 AM
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I think there are other considerations. Like your conversion. Do you know you have a solidly converting marketing letter on your site? is your sales process effective? A lot of people will complain they got "screwed" when they bought traffic packages (i know, i used to sell pop unders too from a site called visitorsnow), but when I'd go check out their site, it was super confusing, no direction for the site visitor to take. Also consider is your offer the kind that has a broad appeal? If not, don't buy bulk popp under traffic, if so, maybe give it a try, but always... ALWAYS be sure to track results from every paid or free campaign you run. It doesn' hurt to collect data too and my shameless plug for my site is responsebooster.com which is free 
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06-16-2008, 05:46 PM
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most of them are complete scams....
try <link removed>
Last edited by cldnails : 06-19-2008 at 07:38 AM.
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06-16-2008, 05:55 PM
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Hi ... yes, many are scamming, as Shanez20, but high end categories deliver, well. You might be astounded at what "major" sites buy visitors, by the millions. Try this vendor, if you like. The high end, effective categories are on the right side, especially the last 2-3. Better yet, try advertising via AdBrite. Use full page ads and bid the minimum, which I think is $ .001. If your page is effective, AdBrite should convert. You can specify site categories and specific sites. Yes, you'll get lots of sites running your ad at $.001 per view. Hope this helps. Good luck. Do let us know what you decide and how it goes.
Last edited by sclick : 06-16-2008 at 05:57 PM.
Reason: corrected information; speeling
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06-16-2008, 08:11 PM
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I have purchased traffic before and it did not convert at all. The traffic I bought was from pop-unders. Now I didn't run a pop-under campain, but only bought 10,000 visits.
It did not work well for my site, which is very targeted.
Manual TEs can be a great way to go in my opinion, but your site needs to be a real attention grabber. TE views are for maybe 5-10 second, so the site needs to sell itself quickly for it to be effective.
Traffic swarm is my favorite TE as it is HUGE.
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06-16-2008, 09:50 PM
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Well, I'm an organic SEO guy and I don't suppose that I will ever buy traffic through PPC but I might consider other options.
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06-17-2008, 06:35 AM
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You are so correct
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Originally Posted by sclick
Hi ... yes, many are scamming, as Shanez20, but high end categories deliver, well. You might be astounded at what "major" sites buy visitors, by the millions. Try this vendor, if you like. The high end, effective categories are on the right side, especially the last 2-3. Better yet, try advertising via AdBrite. Use full page ads and bid the minimum, which I think is $ .001. If your page is effective, AdBrite should convert. You can specify site categories and specific sites. Yes, you'll get lots of sites running your ad at $.001 per view. Hope this helps. Good luck. Do let us know what you decide and how it goes.
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Yes, there are many major companies that buy traffic in the millions. It still amazes me that when website owners purchase a product or service and does not get the desired result, the word scam comes out quickly.
As an owner of several websites, I take full responsibility when my programs work and when they don`t work. I have tried several traffic exchanges with very little success. I don`t scream scam, I look at what I`m promoting and then try to make proper changes to my site.
Meaning that I either create a new squeeze page or offer something free to get the user to take action. Buying traffic should be a part of an overall strategy but should not be the end all.
Most importantly, know where that traffic is coming from. The cheaper the traffic, the less it will convert.
David Bowie
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06-17-2008, 12:36 PM
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There two ways to get traffic hard way and cheating way. Buying traffic is not one of them 
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06-17-2008, 08:23 PM
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In my opinion, purchased traffic does not convert at all, just a waste of time and money.
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06-18-2008, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by theChronic
Hey whats up
Has anyone here had any success with buying traffic? If so, could you post an attachment of any statistics? Google analytics?
I'm debating getting some but it seems too good to be true so I want to see some evidence before I committ.
Peace
John
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Buying traffic is the worst way of advertising...
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06-18-2008, 04:24 AM
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To succeed with paid traffic, you've got to you know your numbers. You need to know what you're paying for the traffic, and how much you're getting back from the expenditure. Spend a buck... bring in more than a buck. This balance depends on various factors ranging from the audience you're attracting, to your offer, to your sales copy and funnel, etc. etc.
It's hit and miss, so you need to test too.
Hope that helps. All the best.
Doug
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06-20-2008, 07:22 PM
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i want to buy traffic for promote the affiliate program dating ads,is it a good idea
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06-22-2008, 07:08 PM
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i dont think they will really help.
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