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09-23-2007, 10:27 PM
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What's the secret to getting LOTS of people to your website?
Does anyone who managed to achieve a HIGH Alexa ranking willing to share how they got all their visitors?
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09-23-2007, 10:32 PM
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Content, links, SEO, etc.
Look at the top ranked websites and you can pretty easily reverse-engineer their success.
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09-24-2007, 02:03 AM
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u may buy traffic from those advertising site to increase ur alexa ranking too
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09-24-2007, 02:10 AM
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But sometimes checking out a site that has high alexa ranking does not work, because no successful SEO is going to give away their little tricks and such
, not many anyway. Few leave their site optimized after they get high pr and ranking,and others use cloaking even so what you see isn't what the SE's are getting.
So sometimes going back and checking googles cashed links or sifting through the archives can help you to see how some sites progressed.
Although some SEO's even add tags top prevent their pages from being archived too.
Just have to learn as you go and don't depend entirely on what others tell you 
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09-30-2007, 07:46 AM
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viral or non-viral?
Basically i think for someone to come to your site, there's must be an incentive to do so. u must provide some kind of value.
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09-30-2007, 01:20 PM
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How about some suggestions:
I have a website, http://www/ziplabor.com, that is about 45 days young. The ZipLabor website brings together: people who have a Task they want/need to do; and people Qualified to Complete those tasks. I have done the following:
- applied and listed on most search engines
- optimized META content and wording of webpages
- Sent out press releases to 1000 newspapers
- sent out notices to 400 community volunteer organizations (ZipLabor partners, and share revenue with Registered Organizations) informing them of the fundraising potential of ZipLabor
- contacted 200 individuals who have tasks to do, and offered to let then post their Tasks on the ZipLabor website for free.
- distributed/posted flyers at 2 local university. Although ZipLabor operates Nationwide, the receiption (i.e. removing website address from flyer)is great.
- submitted/applied for 30 website awards
Problem: My website hit count is low (less than 50 hits a day).
What would you suggest next?
Your suggestions/comments are appreciated.
James Bryan Menke
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09-30-2007, 03:56 PM
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Dear Tom:
Everyone I know, knows about my website. I have done an email campaign to the three groups (Demanders, Performers, Organizations) that use my website. I need something stronger. I have started, what I call, Project 1,000,000. I want to contact 1 Mil potential users of my website.
Thanks, JBM
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10-03-2007, 09:13 AM
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content is king 
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10-04-2007, 06:05 PM
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Content is King
Hi Writocrate:
You are abosolutely right, Content is King. A website, to be successful must contain information that is important and useful to its users.
The ZipLabor website is Temporary Short Term Labor. It has the speed of SuperMan and capacity to hold 600 million fields of information. That would be Demander (Person with Task to do) and Performers ( Individuals and Businessess to Complete the Tasks) and Organizations (local Volunteer Groups that promote the website and share in any fees collected). I believe ZipLabor has and will continue to have useful CONTENT.
Content is a necessity, I believe I have that. So, how do I get 1,000,000 people to know about the ZipLabor Website.
I believe one of the answers is Determination. Someone else thinks that Contraversy sells, What do you think about using Contraversy?
Thanks, James Bryan Menke
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10-04-2007, 07:22 PM
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Dear James Bryan Menke,
I think controversy is great for movie stars & Rock stars... Theres no such thing as bad publicity in the movie & music business....
On the other end of the stick, Most controversy tends to lead to bad publicity, with that said, Bad publicity is one of the most difficult things to shake off in a normal business & Deadly to a small business just starting out.
Sure, at first the negativity will create a typhoon of curious visitors that want A first hand peek at what all the hypes about. (Short lived & 90% simply peek & run so they know what to look out for in the future if they see you again)
Now, this all changes if you are the one creating the controversy about someone or something else (Then its a positive reaction for you).... Just keep in mind that if the tables are turned & you are found to not have viable evidence to support your controversial claim, it will backfire & blow up in your face.
Kind of a fine line when dealing with any type of public relation technique.
Good Luck
Last edited by scorpionagency : 10-04-2007 at 07:26 PM.
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10-05-2007, 07:39 AM
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Before I submit our site, we make sure it has a high web traffic and a site that has a lot of visitors such as forums or social media site like bookmarking, communities , network and news.Blogs with related content or article can also boost traffic for the site. It must have link from the main site.
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Originally Posted by gregdavidson
Does anyone who managed to achieve a HIGH Alexa ranking willing to share how they got all their visitors?
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10-05-2007, 07:54 AM
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Also, hit the homepage of digg a few times.
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I know you need some of these SEO services, where you can also track all your orders from a single dashboard.
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10-05-2007, 08:30 AM
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Email to Marketing Group is not answer
Dear Virgina:
Thanks for your suggestion. Your advice is to join your group (for a fee)which sends a weekly email to all your existing members and future members about my website. I can see how many people would know about my website, however these are people who are trying to market their own websites and are not very well qualified to use the services my website offers.
Thank you for recognizing my use of ZipLabor Organizations to promote my website. Yes, you are right that this is an expensive way to Promote my website, but it brings so much benefit to Kids at the Local Level. Registered Organizations share any Fees collected by ZipLabor. Who Qualifies as a ZipLabor Organization is detailed on the website. They must have at least 35 members and use any Royalty Checks received on Youth Projects. Royalty Checks are distributed twice a year in June and December.
Again, Thank you for your reply. ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS.
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10-05-2007, 08:40 AM
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Controversy has no Scuples
Dear scorpionagency,
I agree that Controversy is not good or right. However, I recall one attorney who used Controversy quit well. He claimed that controversy leads to name recognition and after a period of time people forgot the Controversy but remembered the name.
Thanks for the input.
PS: I am glad your website reminds people that FORD almost went broke by only offering one color of Car. Promotion of a website (or any entity) must change with the times or go broke.
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10-05-2007, 08:46 AM
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diggs website looks interesting
Hi Jarek,
Thanks for letting me know about the diggs website. I quickly looked at it and know I will return to spend more time. Can you tell me about your diggs experiences. Have they improved your website? Have they improved your web traffic. Thanks.
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10-05-2007, 09:51 AM
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James Bryan Menke you should work on the UI of your site, whatever you have created behind it will not be seen since nobody will probably want to invest any time on a site which has such a basic look. Craigslist being a major exception.
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Originally Posted by James Bryan Menke
How about some suggestions:
I have a website, http://www/ziplabor.com, that is about 45 days young. The ZipLabor website brings together: people who have a Task they want/need to do; and people Qualified to Complete those tasks. I have done the following:
- applied and listed on most search engines
- optimized META content and wording of webpages
- Sent out press releases to 1000 newspapers
- sent out notices to 400 community volunteer organizations (ZipLabor partners, and share revenue with Registered Organizations) informing them of the fundraising potential of ZipLabor
- contacted 200 individuals who have tasks to do, and offered to let then post their Tasks on the ZipLabor website for free.
- distributed/posted flyers at 2 local university. Although ZipLabor operates Nationwide, the receiption (i.e. removing website address from flyer)is great.
- submitted/applied for 30 website awards
Problem: My website hit count is low (less than 50 hits a day).
What would you suggest next?
Your suggestions/comments are appreciated.
James Bryan Menke
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10-05-2007, 10:25 AM
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Picture might keep visitors but not bring visitors
Hello f8tball:
Thanks for your comments. I don’t know exactly what UI stands for, but I assume it is the look and feel of the web site (i.e. pictures, etc).
The ZipLabor WebSite is designed to handle very large traffic, pages are in memory (e.g. mod_perl) and very fast. By adding pictures (etc) causes the files to be larger and thus the serving time slower. Generally, I would agree with you that more UI is needed, however, I monitor each visitor to the website and review their movement from page to page. I find that my visitors stay for quit a long time and visit many pages. Thus I don’t believe more UI (pictures) will influence the number of visitors that come to my website.
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10-05-2007, 10:43 AM
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UI stands for user interface, the more visual aspect of a website, which may include pictures, but that is not really of necessity. Have a look at the following link ( http://webstyleguide.com/interface/user-centered.html) - I am not really sure what your site is offering, it seems like it is a forum for person X to link up with person Y to work on tasks or something like that. If that is the case then there are far more user friendly and graphically inviting sites out there that you are competing with. If this site is IT related then there are sites such as scriptlance and odesk. But the key factor for your is get a web designer and get rude of the 1990s look and feel.
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10-05-2007, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by James Bryan Menke
Dear scorpionagency,
I agree that Controversy is not good or right. However, I recall one attorney who used Controversy quit well. He claimed that controversy leads to name recognition and after a period of time people forgot the Controversy but remembered the name.
Thanks for the input.
PS: I am glad your website reminds people that FORD almost went broke by only offering one color of Car. Promotion of a website (or any entity) must change with the times or go broke.
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Does Bad controversy really just go away? I suppose it depends on the controversy in question.
I have seen careers Smashed to pieces leading to one hit wonders & short lived small businesses all because their controversy led to bad publicity, which retroactively Had the opposite word of mouth effect, everyone was spreading the word "NOT" to use them.
You get enough people spreading the word that a company is BAD BUSINESS & never to use them & guess what? Revenues drop, Bills become past due, Current clients leave because they are getting a hard time from others for using you, then the doors close & the business declares bankruptcy.
I have seen it time & time again.
Once Again, I suppose it depends on the extent of the controversy, But to think that Bad Publicity from controversy will simply just go away after a while is simply underestimating the Power of an Unhappy Consumer.
Now, there are some companies that are doing ok after bouncing back from bad Publicity stemming from controversy, However they had rather deep pockets (Plenty of Capital) to invest in a long term repair campaign.
The rule of thumb is that for every 1 year of good business it takes 5-10 years to get people back on track after Bad controversial word of mouth (And this depends on how consistent your repair efforts are).
In my opinion, unless you are a rock star or movie star (Or even a large fortune 500 corporation), it's best to try & stay away from negative controversy. Even if you have the millions to invest on repairing your company name in the eyes of the consumer, Why spend it if you don't have too?
Just my Opinion, based on seeing it first hand & 2nd party.
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10-08-2007, 02:19 AM
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still content.
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