Brand Management

[MrCat]

Lols

Anyways Pinky thanks for pointing the possible hi-jack issue on that page, wouldn't have not seen it if it wasn't for your constructive intrusion hahaha

It's really weird as even when typing www.mixcat.net - it still redirects to that darn page.

Be back later - will be busy with this issue for a while...

[pinkfluffybunny]

if you're running iis - go to MS site they have step by steps - I've never played with virtuals (they are a mess to configure properly and screw themselves up on their own sometimes)

if its on a open source server maybe a open source guy can help you

It's possible they hijacked, you but I doubt it.


That damn rabbit has no manners.... I'll kill him off soon - (hate to do tho, it back in the old hacker days he was a fearful bunny - http://www.bac-clan.com/forum/archiv...hp/t-3377.html) http://www.gel-guild.org/board/showt...p?t=927&page=2. So many PFB's now it's giving PFB a bad name

[pinkfluffybunny]

If you're reading this thread still here is a report:

Got DNS list for 'mixcat.net' from f.gtld-servers.net
Found NS record: ns10.mixcat.com[206.71.183.26], was resolved to IP address by f.gtld-servers.net
Found NS record: ns9.mixcat.com[206.71.183.25], was resolved to IP address by f.gtld-servers.net
Domain has 2 DNS server(s)


Checking HTTP server www.mixcat.net [206.71.183.25]
HTTP server www.mixcat.net[206.71.183.25] answers on port 80
Received: HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently (Server: Apache/1.3.39 (Unix) PHP/4.4.4 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 mod_ssl/2.8.30 OpenSSL/0.9.8b) Location: http://www.mixcat.com/search.php
Your main page redirects to another location. Several search engines will be unable to index your site.


Oh crap looks like they are using your mail server also

Mail server mixcat.net[206.71.183.25] answers on port 25
<<< 220-server1.mixcat.com ESMTP Exim 4.68 #1 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:23:56 -0800
>>> HELO
<<< 220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited,
<<< 220 and/or bulk e-mail.
<<< 250 server1.mixcat.com Hello

[pinkfluffybunny]

Cat my humble opinion

is that they Exploited Security Hole in the Vector Markup Language in cPanel.

Look for Trojan Rbot added to a botnet, if it is, it can steal bank usernames and passwords, SSNs, credit card numbers, online payment accounts, etc.
You're not the only one - over 10,000 Apache servers were hacked in Jan. by this bot

by the way clear your dns cache on you home computer (and anyone that has visited the site from this board)
"control panel"
"administrative tools"
"services"
Highlite "DNS client"
"restart"

If you visited that redirect page make sure your malware program is up to date or download a copy of adaware and run it (free home version here - http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php ).

[MrCat]

Hey Pinky,

Thanks for the effort - I just forwarded this thread to the techie guy in our group.

Darn there's really something that messed up with it. Would want the issue resolved soon. Not good for branding, lols.

Thanks again buddy

[pinkfluffybunny]

Sorry buddy,

It happens.

Just got a call from a guy in South Fl this afternoon ..... same thing -

[lordspace]

To contribute in Brand Management every business owner should appreciate which clients are the best ones and try to make the connection stronger with every year.

We'll mention Pareto's rule again i.e. 80/20 that 80 percent of the capital of a company comes from 20% of its customers.

Slavi

[swapw]

Originally Posted by John Scott

I hear people talk about brand management a lot. Usually they mention it as a justification to pay some blogger to post something entirely superficially positive on their blog, often on a blog that has no credibility and is full of other paid posts.

That's not brand management. Brand management, in my opinion, is dealing with the criticism that comes up on the Internet, in forums and blogs. Not "paying to make it go away" but by responding to it personally or having a representative respond to it, in an honest way.

Let's say you own xyzhosting.com, and somebody posts that xyzhosting.com sucks because the servers were down for an hour.

Now you can go pay some shills to post nice stuff about you, but it ain't going to carry any weight.

Was the server down? If it was, then make right. What was the cause? Was the cause addressed to prevent a recurrence? Then post that. And if somebody is complaining, admit that their complaints are legitimate and win them back by being honest and by making good, for example by offering them a refund and free hosting to make up for your mistake.

That, in my opinion, is brand management. Not paid posts on paid post blogs that carry no weight.

Can't agree with you more. Many would just stand behind paying people and have them say nice things simply it's essentially the cheaper way to get rid of the issue. But does it really get rid of it?

Ideally, in a perfect world dealing with the problem is by far the best way to go but with it comes with a lot of cost. I see the fact that we have the luxury to hide behind a computer and type, I am surprised on some of the outrageous stuff people talk about versus what they would say regularly.
I really hope that they would be brought more toward the light and provide real service rather then just fluff of lies.

But then to achieve that would be virtually impossible realistically. However, that doesn't change my personal preference to do things right rather then take the short cut in any service or advice I offer.

If brand management meant a blog post, it's a joke. You might as well as to quit right now. But if you're looking long term, the people that stand behind you will recognize you as a "brand". This will take a LONG time but it'll come.

[Brazzell Marketing]

Warning: I’m a mixed media kind of guy.

While creating a positive buzz about your company can be one part of brand management, paying people to pose as satisfied customers is outright fraud. If you suspect a company of doing this, you should avoid that company.

Databazaar (a place where I used to spend about $6,000 per year on ink and toner) did something to create positive buzz that I considered ethical. Shortly after receiving my shipments, they would drop me an e-mail asking me to go to a specific site and rate them. Since they asked so nicely and they were a preferred vendor for me, I tried to oblige from time to time.

[jhuynh1026]

yeah i heard brand management is important because we to need to create a strong brand image for people and it is not an easy task to do...alot of external and internal factors will influence it...too.

[coolbudy1980]

Very help full info.

[jassim]

Here's the point Cat - 2 years from now someone looking for an ISP and doing research on them, may come across a post like this.
If the company replied like I did in the example above - no problem - just normal stuff - shows they actually care.

[marine841]

SO far I have understand that brand management is something about making a product reliable to the customers so that customer can grow their trust on it. Sometimes due to good brand management bad product turn into a good product.

[sjohn]

I hear people talk about brand management a lot. Usually they mention it as a justification to pay some blogger to post something entirely superficially positive

[stephen186]

I think if you give a quality service to your customers, they are definitely going to spread your name and make the brand popular.

On the other hand if you ignore even one or two of them, they can make destroy your brand name. the good example is dellhell. Search for it in google and you will get the full story.

[damonjim]

that is really informative post for the brand management but i want to add just one page facebook also help to make famous your brand

[pawana]

Of course branding is a very important aspect in our webmastering.we should always pay close attention to it.


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[vhinz316]

This is a very nice discussion...but IMHO brand management is the process of marketing one or more proprietary products. I can say that it is related to promotion of a certain product or brand through advertising, retailing, and referrals, etc.

[damonjim]

thanks for sharing your information.
But I want to add some thing more.
Facebook is the biggest site in social network. It has more then 300 million active users and also facebook providing the facebook fan pages which is help you in branding.

[Harold Whisker]

If I'm understanding this right, brand management is akin to image management over the web. If so, I'm not following the big rub that's going on here. Rumor wars are one thing, but page rankings are another. Unless someone can point out the ROI on smear campaigns compared to simply going full steam ahead with SEO techniques, I'm siding with SEO.