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Old 09-29-2009, 07:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What volume of traffic would I need to make money

Hi,

I have been working on an ecommerce site for the last few years but am moving onto a new project having got that up and running.

Now with the ecommerce site it was fairly simple for me to look at costs and expected turnover and see what we needed to do to make money.

But the project I am just starting to look at will initally run solely of ad revenue.

So the question is how do I work out how many visitors I need in order to make x amount of money.

I can weigh up against the running costs of the site to see whether or not it is worth going after.

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This would honestly depend on what your selling, if your traffic is targeted, your prices in comparison to competition. Can you explain those things a bit more for us?
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I wouldn't be selling anything with the propose site, simply offering videos to attract visitors then making money form a mixture of advertising, amazon affiliate links etc.

Then later we want to see if a subscription for premium content would be feasible.

The best comparison I can see out there now (but they're obviously on a much larger scale) are site like cnet and gamespot which offer content and videos and get the revenue from ads and a premium content subs model.
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I wouldn't be selling anything with the propose site, simply offering videos to attract visitors then making money form a mixture of advertising, amazon affiliate links etc.

Then later we want to see if a subscription for premium content would be feasible.

The best comparison I can see out there now (but they're obviously on a much larger scale) are site like cnet and gamespot which offer content and videos and get the revenue from ads and a premium content subs model.
I agree with you
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Forget traffic. The word you need to consider is CONVERSION.

You could have a million visitors but convert none to customers, or you could have two visitors and convert one to a customer. Which is better?
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Forget traffic. The word you need to consider is CONVERSION.

You could have a million visitors but convert none to customers, or you could have two visitors and convert one to a customer. Which is better?
You can't get anyone to convert if there is no traffic
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I cant really answer on that volume of traffic thingy but Google can help you out. you can try their website optimizer. lets you see on how much different contents of a website can help get traffic
http://www.google.com/websiteoptimizer/
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Right, conversion rate is important but traffic is the first. If the visitors are led to your sites by some so-called money keywords, the conversion rate might be also higher.
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Right, conversion rate is important but traffic is the first. If the visitors are led to your sites by some so-called money keywords, the conversion rate might be also higher.
I can't agree with you.The traffic is the first,only you get more traffic, you will get more customers.
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I've got a PR0 site with a traffic of more than 50000 unique visitors per month and I'm making an income about $50 with Google ads.
I've got a PR4 site with a traffic of only 2000 unique visitors per month, but I'm making an income of about $300 with selling sitewide links.
So, traffic might not be the most important thing. It all depends on what niche you are in and what strategy you are taking.
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Hi,

I have been working on an ecommerce site for the last few years but am moving onto a new project having got that up and running.

Now with the ecommerce site it was fairly simple for me to look at costs and expected turnover and see what we needed to do to make money.

But the project I am just starting to look at will initally run solely of ad revenue.

So the question is how do I work out how many visitors I need in order to make x amount of money.

I can weigh up against the running costs of the site to see whether or not it is worth going after.

Thanks, Richard
Answer depends on so many things. Like, what is the CTR or the conversion rate? How targeted is the traffic you are getting? Niche and etc

Some sites have good CTR, so they make good money with less targeted traffic where a site like a forum, will make less money with the same amount of traffic as forums have low CTR.

Make sure your site have ok CTR and try to improve your ranking in SERPs. Traffic from SEs is the best traffic that you can get.
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There is no exact formula as to what is going to make you the most money online. You must promote A LOT, a lot of back linking which you can create by doing a lot of forum commenting, blogging, social bookmarking, and even classifieds. For immediate visitors email marketing like solo ads, in other words you must diversify your marketing efforts in order to bring traffic to your site. But stay away from traffic exchanges if you are going to use google adsense as your revenue source, because they do not allow TE and you will get banned.

By the way it is very difficult to come up with an approximate number of how much you can generate because it depends on so many different factors.
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But the project I am just starting to look at will initally run solely of ad revenue.

So the question is how do I work out how many visitors I need in order to make x amount of money.
Giving the fact that all ads have their different click through earnings, you can never predict or calculate how much you can make from x amount of visitors. Get more traffic to your site and your ad revenue will increase.
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So the question is how do I work out how many visitors I need in order to make x amount of money.
It all depends on average click value. Unfortunately this value constantly changes. One month I got CPM around $30 other month it was only $9.
IMO this depends on average click cost, advertisers competition, your website's quality score...
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There really is no way to tell, different niches attract different amounts. Just focus on getting as much traffic as you can and the dough will follow.
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There really is no way to tell, different niches attract different amounts. Just focus on getting as much traffic as you can and the dough will follow.
Im'm agreed at that point. More traffic = much money.
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Both traffic and conversion are needed but for me the most priority is gathering traffic, which I think that there will be potential customers for conversion.
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It depends on the niche, take for example if you are on the make money online category then minimum of 500 unq/day is on the average
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Hi,

I have been working on an ecommerce site for the last few years but am moving onto a new project having got that up and running.

Now with the ecommerce site it was fairly simple for me to look at costs and expected turnover and see what we needed to do to make money.

But the project I am just starting to look at will initally run solely of ad revenue.

So the question is how do I work out how many visitors I need in order to make x amount of money.

I can weigh up against the running costs of the site to see whether or not it is worth going after.

Thanks, Richard
Hello Richard,

There are many elements in your business that are important, but there are two important ones that determine its success or failure. These elements are:

1.Traffic
2.Conversion

You can have best product and best website in the world but if nobody has ever visited your website and seen your product then you are not going to make any sales.

On other side if you are going to yell out on the internet get the visitors but if you dont have a good sales copy then also you might not have any conversion. There is a very fine line between these two scenarios.

There are lot of site which will offer you free traffic or some will paid ones but what is important is to get the targeted traffic to your website. There are many people obsessed with getting millions of visitor to the website and think that is going to increase their page rank with google, but that is not the case either, there are lot of things needs to be considered like the keywords you are using its density etc.

When you are driving traffic to your site and you don’t know what type of traffic it is, you are wasting a lot of time and effort. You want visitors that are interested in what you are offering, you want people that land on your site and do what you expect them to do. In other words, you want traffic that works with your business and decides to opt in or buy.

Don’t make the common mistake of driving a lot of traffic to your site, looking at your traffic statistics and getting excited. It is the wrong approach, because if these big traffic statistic numbers don’t bring in money it is a complete waste of time.

You have to drive targeted visitors to your site and in order to do this you need to keep two things in mind:

1.The quality of the message you put out
2.The place where you deliver that message

Your message has to be delivered where your prospects are and it has to make them visit your site. Sometimes you are delivering the right message, but you don’t know if you are doing it in the right place.

So, what to do? The answer is very simple, you just have to track your links to know where your traffic is coming from and how it is converting. There are lot of services out there that you can use to track your links, hypertracker is one of them.

When you know your numbers, then you focus only on the sources of traffic that are converting better. This way, you will save a tremendous amount of time and money and you will be more efficient and productive… You will make more as you have the people visiting your site that will pay you for your service/product.

In conclusion… You should have the quality targeted visitors to your website, who come to your website and are interested in buying something from you. You should be able to work out what sales copy is working with you that means if you are getting that traffic but not the conversion then its time to change the sales copy, and you should be able to track the visitors comming from different sources.

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