Last time I looked we were a Republic, not a communist nation.
What the hell is the matter with this guy?
Obama tells a plumber that he wants to "spread his wealth around" to make sure that other's have a chance to succeed.
You don't succeed in America by getting entitlements. You don't succeed in America by taxing the people who create jobs.
I could not believe my ears when I heard Obama tell a hard working American to his face that he should pay more taxes to help those that do not have "a chance at success". And then go on to tell him that he is not going to "punish his success" but rather spread his success around to others.
Aside from this being the most draconian and sadistic thing I've ever heard come out of this ignorant kid's mouth (Obama), isn't what we all do as small business owners, "spreading wealth around". When I sell something, I make money, my community and state makes money through tax revenues. My federal government makes money, my employees make money, my suppliers make money, as do their employees, and local, state and federal tax coffers as well.
WTF is the matter with people? I've lost all respect for and hope for anyone that is a democrat. I've gone from thinking they were misguided to truly believing they are brain dead, ignorant and retarded.
Do people really believe this BS that Obama touts? Does Obama really believe it? My taxes will go up almost 40% according to Obama, but I will get a 50% tax credit for health care... WHoopie! I already pay out of pocket for mine and my employees health care. I pay income tax on my health care. I don't need more taxes, and I certainly cannot see a 50% tax credit (whatever the hell that is) helping me or my employees in any way.
Quite simply, since I already pay income tax on my health care, I can expect to see that tax rise by 40%, but hey, I'll get that 50% credit. Does this guy think I'm an idiot?
I talked to a neighbor yesterday that told me he was not going to vote for McCain because Palin is "under investigation". Christ.. I've lost all hope.
Does anyone know where the video clip is of Joe, Wurzelbacher asking Obama about his tax plan? I saw it early this morning and damn near woke the dead screaming.
He knows that you are and your post above says so.
Why don’t you stop listen to talking points your brain washers throwing left and right (ok, maybe right only) and instead spend a little bit of your time and REALLY read what Obama has to offer to American People.
But if you did then stop insulting more than half (64%) of American public who support Obama’s health plan and calling them idiots just because they smart enough to like what Obama wants to do. I think you and alike in reality like his plan but because it comes from Obama you cannot publicly acknowledge your real feelings and as result you’re getting angry more toward McCain for not proposing something like Obama’s plan in a first place.
Now. My question is: do you want poor working class and every child in America have access to Health services regardless of their financial circumstance?
He knows that you are and your post above says so.
Why don’t you stop listen to talking points your brain washers throwing left and right (ok, maybe right only) and instead spend a little bit of your time and REALLY read what Obama has to offer to American People.
Apparently you did not read my post fully. These are not talking points. This was actually amateur video of Obama saying these things himself.
Get it?
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But if you did then stop insulting more than half (64%) of American public who support Obama’s health plan and calling them idiots just because they smart enough to like what Obama wants to do. I think you and alike in reality like his plan but because it comes from Obama you cannot publicly acknowledge your real feelings and as result you’re getting angry more toward McCain for not proposing something like Obama’s plan in a first place.
64% of unintelligent people support him, I will grant you that. Obama's health plan is socialized medicine. I have health insurance now because I chose to buy it, unlike the Obama supporters that want me to provide it to them for free.
McCain gives me a tax credit for what I already purchase, rather than taxing me for buying it, like Obama.
You really need to read up on Obama's plan. That or listen to him in person like I have when he has explained it.
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Now. My question is: do you want poor working class and every child in America have access to Health services regardless of their financial circumstance?
Every person in America has access to Health Services NOW, regardless of there financial circumstance.
If you believe otherwise, you've been spending way too much time listening to liberal talking points.
Obama's health plan is socialized medicine. I have health insurance now because I chose to buy it, unlike the Obama supporters that want me to provide it to them for free.
And what is wrong with that?
I had 2 surgeries and 14 MRIs which according to my friends in U.S. if I had employer provided health coverage would cost me over $200,000 on top.
Here is the good part, it doesn’t cost me a penny and not only that my disability status allowed me to get free drugs coverage as well until I fully recovered.
Did I mention, we do not have to buy health insurance?
I had 2 surgeries and 14 MRIs which according to my friends in U.S. if I had employer provided health coverage would cost me over $200,000 on top.
Here is the good part, it doesn’t cost me a penny and not only that my disability status allowed me to get free drugs coverage as well until I fully recovered.
Did I mention, we do not have to buy health insurance?
Can McCain match that?
Would it be the quality or the lack of availability that would cause a Canadian Liberal MP to pay for her medical treatment in the US rather getting it under the free Canadian system?
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Liberal MP Belinda Stronach, who is battling breast cancer, travelled to California last June for an operation that was recommended as part of her treatment, says a report.
Mind you, I have no objection to her using the US healthcare system for her treatment. She can afford it and I certainly hope she has a full recovery.
I do have to wonder, though, if Canada's system is as wonderful as is claimed, why do so many Canadians, at least the ones that can afford to, opt to pay for private treatment in the US?
Would it be the quality or the lack of availability that would cause a Canadian Liberal MP to pay for her medical treatment in the US rather getting it under the free Canadian system?
Mind you, I have no objection to her using the US healthcare system for her treatment. She can afford it and I certainly hope she has a full recovery.
I do have to wonder, though, if Canada's system is as wonderful as is claimed, why do so many Canadians, at least the ones that can afford to, opt to pay for private treatment in the US?
Very simple answer would be shortage of available specialists.
Yes, it took me 6 months to get my surgery and yes we have waiting list but said that if you have an emergency, you will get treatment in no time.
There is big difference between you cannot afford to pay and have choice to pay or not to pay.
I had 2 surgeries and 14 MRIs which according to my friends in U.S. if I had employer provided health coverage would cost me over $200,000 on top.
Here is the good part, it doesn’t cost me a penny and not only that my disability status allowed me to get free drugs coverage as well until I fully recovered.
Did I mention, we do not have to buy health insurance?
Can McCain match that?
Just hold the horse train there!
Ok, let me put some input in here, I have had 4 different Neurologists, been to 3 Epilepsy clinics for over 2 days each, one was for 8 days, been admitted to the hospital initially for 2+ weeks in the CCU, I have had countless brain scans, I have had 6 MRI's to date and get one ever 8-12 months for now on, I get at least 1 EEG every 6-8 months and have had 2 home eeg's, this is where you wear the equipment home and have to go back to change the data every day. I am on Exelon patch, Namenda, Depakote, and zestril. Combined these medications by themselves cost give or take $1,000 a month. As for the other medical expenses, well if we added them all up come close to $500,000 if not more.
My total out of pocket expenses for the medical is probably max $300, I pay $12 a month in co-pay for my medicine. This is by having Medicare, with a medicaid secondary. If I get regular insurance that covers pre-existing then I would owe 20% of medical up until a particular spending point then 100% coverage with most of the better policies that I have either been on previously or seen. An the medication I may spend say $40 in copays max. Those are the facts, not the garbage you are spouting.
And under a government ran health care system as proposed by Obama then I have to wait to be seen or have procedures done as they are made available. In Florida an Epilepsy clinic in Miami I was supposed to go to already made this happen, I had to find a clinic to go to myself because I was put lower on the waiting list because then medicaid was all I had, that was before the medicare for my disability kicked in. That is what will happen on a regular basis with a government ran health care system.
My wife just had to have surgery, she has no insurance. We were able to get what they call transient care aid that paid the hospital and medication bill. All we have to do is pay the surgeon which we've made arangements with. So don't try to spout the poorness of our medical system. It works, it may not work for someone that wants to sit back, do nothing and expect the state hand them everything for free for their entire lives, but for those that actually try to make a living it does work.
Taxpayer-funded doesn't equate to free. Somebody's paying for it, just not directly.
Ah, but we all taxpayers and we all chip in for common good, something that you Americans can’t understand and never will until you dismantle your philosophy of individualism.
Yes, you maybe healthy today and yes you may never need to see doctor in your lifetime but... if God forbid you have to, wouldn’t be nice to know that because you all (Americans) put something in your health care pot, you will have one less worry about how to pay and instead concentrate on your full recovery.
I had 2 surgeries and 14 MRIs which according to my friends in U.S. if I had employer provided health coverage would cost me over $200,000 on top.
Here is the good part, it doesn’t cost me a penny and not only that my disability status allowed me to get free drugs coverage as well until I fully recovered.
Did I mention, we do not have to buy health insurance?
Can McCain match that?
Who pays for it? Yeah, lets go ahead and compare them. Nearly 11% of your GDP goes to your health care program. And its still not enough to pay for your social welfare program, so, businesses have to pick up the remainder, approx 30% of the bill.
And, as a result, other shortcuts are needed. We don't have to wait 4 weeks for that MRI dude!
Canada offers some great benefits.
Wait times - 4 weeks or more to see a specialist. 4+ hours or more in emergency waiting rooms. In fact, on the subject of MRI, Saskatchewan has a 22 month waiting time for an MRI. I highly doubt you had 14 MRI's, unless those took place over a 25 year period.
Hmm.. Medical Professional Shortages - only 2 doctors per thousand people.
Restrictions on health care. Should I really go on? Most Canadians cross the border to get health care in the US. Gee, I wonder why. Some don't have 25 years to get 14 MRI's.
If you would have read Obama's health care plan, you'd find that it is most certainly not modeled after the Canadian system of health care, and there is no clear indication of how he intends to pay for it. We've got 300 million people in the US, not 30 like you guys.
Americans will not tolerate waiting hours for service, much less months or YEARS for specialists. Right now, you can get care in the US, even without health insurance. And you don't have to wait.
Restrictions on health care. Should I really go on? Most Canadians cross the border to get health care in the US. Gee, I wonder why. Some don't have 25 years to get 14 MRI's.
Because your med pay system corrupt our Canadian doctors and if I wanna see one, I have to go to states
Oh... 14 in 2 years within 48 hours max. after my doctor's request MRI
You can tell the most about Obama from the things he says when he doesn't realize he's being recorded, and yes, even with him on tape giving an answer that shows him to be an outright socialist, America has a gracious plenty enough idiots to put him right where he wants to be.
Think about it. He's an extreme left radical with a public history of associations with radical lunatics and professed terrorists. He's an anti free market socialist with a deep, seething loathing for free market capitalism and individual freedoms with responsibilities. This is not opinion, it's public record...don't ask for the links..they're easy enough to find, and always by his own mouth.
His best and most used defense? Awww, people who bring that stuff up just don't like me because I've got a funny name and I'm black.
All that, and he's up past the margin of error in the polls. Does he think Americans are idiots? What do you think? Are we?
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He that lives upon hope will die fasting. ~ Benjamin Franklin
something that you Americans can’t understand and never will until you dismantle your philosophy of individualism.
There's an Obama minded person right there. I pray that some poor bastard who was thinking of voting Obama "cuz, he's like cool and for change and stuff" reads that. That's what you're buying. The squashing of all that American individualism.
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He that lives upon hope will die fasting. ~ Benjamin Franklin
No, not really but I have to admit that I see him as deliverance from your existing socialized capitalism and welfare scheme for Banks, Wall Street, Insurance and Pharmaceutical companies.
If Obama get elected and then succeed in dismantling brought to life by Godfather of deregulations Sen. Gramm’s welfare for the rich system, then we all, you in America and we in the rest of the World, will benefit. Some people can see the outcome now and some will see it when it happens.
