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07-05-2004, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ATLien
Made that **** documentary F911, that only expresses his one view.
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You don't have to see it, it's a free country..
By the way, most of the stuff in it is true (some facts are biased).
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07-05-2004, 10:48 AM
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Talk about freedom. I love this.
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Fahrenheit 9/11 banned in Iowa and Nebraska
Associated Press
DECORAH, Iowa — The president of a company that owns movie theaters in Iowa and Nebraska is refusing to show director Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11."
R.L. Fridley, owner of Des Moines-based Fridley Theatres, says the controversial documentary incites terrorism.
Fridley said in an e-mail message to company managers that the company does not "play political propaganda films from either the right or the left."
"Our country is in a war against an enemy who would destroy our way of life, our culture and kill our people," Fridley wrote. "These barbarians have shown through (the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001) and the recent beheadings that they will stop at nothing. I believe this film emboldens them and divides our country even more."
"Fahrenheit 9/11" won best picture at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival and has grossed millions of dollars at the box office. Moore won an Academy Award for an earlier work, "Bowling for Columbine."
Critics accuse the film of being an unfair and inaccurate portrayal about President Bush's policies before and after Sept. 11, 2001.
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Agree with this or not it's just another person's opinion. This posting will probably be blasted because it does not agree with Michael Moore's opinion or views.
What I love about this is the fact that someone is willing to NOT show a movie that will probably guarantee a box office hit for the theatre and STILL refuses to show it due to his RIGHTS and believes.
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07-05-2004, 01:52 PM
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Has anyone seen the film yet?
I am going on Wednesday and will make my own mind up about it. 
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07-05-2004, 02:00 PM
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Wow this thread is just bringing out the 1 time posters, either we have a bunch of gutless cowards who needed to create a new account to post their opinion or IMR is really drawing in the reject crowd.
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07-05-2004, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rivux
Wow this thread is just bringing out the 1 time posters, either we have a bunch of gutless cowards who needed to create a new account to post their opinion or IMR is really drawing in the reject crowd.
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No, it is getting a little bit of search engine traffic. We are number one for "kill michael moore", and it is a search term that's getting a bit of traffic these last few days.
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07-05-2004, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sem4u
Has anyone seen the film yet?
I am going on Wednesday and will make my own mind up about it. 
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Yep, I saw it.
Do you like President Bush? If so, you will not like this movie!! (I'm sure you've gathered that already...  )
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07-05-2004, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rivux
Wow this thread is just bringing out the 1 time posters, either we have a bunch of gutless cowards who needed to create a new account to post their opinion or IMR is really drawing in the reject crowd.
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No, it is getting a little bit of search engine traffic. We are number one for "kill michael moore", and it is a search term that's getting a bit of traffic these last few days.
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haha. your welcome (maybe?) JohnScott
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07-05-2004, 02:50 PM
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hahaha thats great. I can just imagine the people who are going to be coming here for that search term. Us on the left are going to be (if we weren't already) quickly outnumbered. Better call in the re-inforcements. lol
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07-05-2004, 02:51 PM
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I really ought to say thanks to the guy who started the "create a car" thread in the archived forum. Check the view count on that.

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07-05-2004, 02:52 PM
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07-05-2004, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rivux
Wow this thread is just bringing out the 1 time posters, either we have a bunch of gutless cowards who needed to create a new account to post their opinion or IMR is really drawing in the reject crowd.
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Well it seems you have given up on the arguement, and started making supid baseless accusations
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07-05-2004, 06:05 PM
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Supposed to be depressing this film no?
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07-05-2004, 06:11 PM
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I'm Pro Michael Moore  .
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07-05-2004, 06:13 PM
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Me too! heh
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07-06-2004, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pee'dMyself
Caped Crusader, Bytech, Rivux, jonnyp, and HellaCool; you guys are HellaIgnorant. WE ARE FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST AN ENEMY AND A RELIGION THAT VALUES WHITE MUSH AND GAAT MORE THAN HUMAN LIFE. That is a rock solid fact, do you watch the news?
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Well, at least your intolerance and bigotry cover a wide range of people, from the overweight to Muslims.
As for me being ignorant, I've been involved in political activism for twelve years, I have participated in protests and direct actions, and I have studied foreign and domestic policy, as well as world history, at length. You post no facts, only spiteful invective and unfounded, uninformed opinion. I would be happy to match my ignorance against that. Any time you feel up for a real-time debate of issues (where we don't make fun of people for their size, like an adult conversation), I encourage you to contact me.
If depleted uranium is so safe (of course it's not, I'm just humoring you), why is the military briefed on its dangers? Why give our troops special training on how to avoid the potential harm? Because the inhalation of fragmented particles poses a significant health risk. Frankly, I find this example of misinformation in your post more insulting than the name-calling.
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07-06-2004, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DmgInc
Well it seems you have given up on the arguement, and started making supid baseless accusations
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I was never part of an arguement, I haven't seen the movie and had no opinion of it one way or another. And as for 'baseless accusations', I'm guessing your reading comprehension skills aren't very good since the only 'fact' I mentioned was the number of 1 time posters, which can hardly be argued and is far from baseless. My other point was a question and as such wasn't an accusation. Thanks for coming out though.
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07-06-2004, 09:33 PM
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I think the people debating might want to watch the movie before debating.
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07-06-2004, 09:54 PM
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I saw the movie but I didn't learn a lot of new stuff. I admit I was watching it with a bias against curerent administration.
As for the alleged lies, I don't think there are any in the movie. After all litigation is one of the major industries in the US these days, so I'm sure the White House would have taken care of the movie and Moore long before the movie even had a chance to be seen by the public.
A little note: the fact that Moore is fat or ugly (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) is totally irrelevant. Any mention of the fact seems to indicate that ad hominem attacks are the best Moore's opponents can do, which gives Moore even more amunition for his salvos. Ad hominem attacks are a sure sign of the attacker's weakness and lack of real and constructive arguments. We all know he is fat, but I haven't read one single post here proving, or even attempting to prove he is wrong or that the movie is full of lies.
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07-07-2004, 04:29 PM
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For all the retards who are saying the movie is full of lies without seeing it
I will clue you in on some of lies
for one their isn't even really a mention of saddam himself too much in the movie so I don't know where Michael moore said he was a great guy
one thing moore did do that was sort of sleazy was the way he inferred that the person blacked out of bushes medical record was blacked out to hide who he was
moore tried to make it sound like the guy was blacked out because he was a rep of the bin ladin family, which he was
he was blacked out because you cannot release someone medical record without their permission bush released his ,the other guy didn't so he had to get blacked out, not some conspiracy
The part about the Saudi and bin ladin families being allowed to leave after 911 on private jets without questioning is all true
it is even documented in the 911 commission reports
the part about saudis having like a trillion dollars in our banks is true
the part about Halliburton making millions of the Iraq war and the reconstruction is all true
the part about the deal unical made with the Taliban to create an oil line across Afghanistan are all true
The Saudi families bailing bush out of his failed oil dealings
his friendship with ken lay
convicted felons of Enron helping to make out countries energy policy that's all true
the facts don't need Michael moore
his slants and inferences give fuel for his critics
if he just reported the facts he would make a stronger argument
Just curious for all people who say the movie is full of lies
can please list some so I can see if you any clue what you are talking about
I personally like the part where he sat for 7 minutes like a deer in headlights after the first plane hit the tower
he was sitting in a preschool rading to some kids
let me see if I can shed some light on the falsehoods
the part where president bush says
"lets get tough on terrrorism , now watch this drive"
on the golf course he is talking about palistinan terrrorits moore editied that seem like he was talking about 911
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07-07-2004, 04:40 PM
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