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Old 10-10-2004, 10:39 PM   #121 (permalink)
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There is only one GOD. He created everything.

I am going to bed. See yall 2mory guys
You forgot the "I believe" part.

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Old 10-10-2004, 10:42 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Rivux, I understand you putting the'' around fact. Like from the alien movie (with Will Smith, I forget the name). Not long ago we KNEW the eath was flat, we KNEW earth was the center of the universe.

Do you not believe, though, that there is an absolute truth, whether we as Christians are right or wrong or any other religeous or secular group? I mean when you get beyond the flawed human understanding there has to be one truth, right?
Ya I agree with you southnow, there is an absolute truth, though humans are unable to full grasp what it is I believe. The absolute cannot be seen or touched, we just view a version of the perfection in our daily lives. (Plato's Theory of Forms).
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Old 10-11-2004, 04:22 AM   #123 (permalink)
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You forgot the "I believe" part.
There is no need to put that in there. Relegion has you beleive otherwise.

Otherwise the Word would not say

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deuteronomy 6:4

Galatians 3:20
Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

"Meaning God"

and if Jesus were around then Job would not have said.

Job 19:25 "For I know my redeemer liveth and that He will stand at the latter day upon the earth" That is a verse Prophecy of Christ.

and also

Job 16:21 O that one might plead for a man with God, as a man pleadeth for his neighbour"

and then again in the new testament.

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

John 12:45
"And he that beholds me, beholds him that sent me".

This might also help everyone to understand the following:
John 3;16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life".

"All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day." (John 6:37-40)

Jesus is God in human flesh. He created us so He died for us. That is the miracle in it. God did not send some third party otherwise there would be no real salvation as the third party, did not create us.

So basically if you read what is there Jesus Himself is saying He is God the Father. If you were to ask any Jews today they would agree with me that there is only one God.
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Old 10-11-2004, 05:38 AM   #124 (permalink)
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IN THE BEGINNING
THERE WAS MAN
WELL, A FEW MEN.
AND ON THE 5,600,000,000.000.000 DAY THEY DID CREATE THE PEN AND PAPER.
ON THE 5,600,000,000,000,001 DAY THEY DID HAVE THOUGHTS OF INSECURITY AND FELT REASONING AND RATIONALISATION FLOODING THEIR MINDS.
SO THEY GAVE IN TO THESE THOUGHTS AND SET ABOUT EXPLAINING TO OTHER MEN HOW THEY CAME INTO EXISTENCE AND REASSURED THEMSELVES THAT THEY DID REALLY HAVE A REASON TO EXIST.
SO, ON THE 5,600,000,000,000,002 THEY CREATED GOD.
AND GOD WAS GREAT, AND GOD WAS CREATED IN THEIR OWN IMAGE AND IT FELT GOOD.
THE MEN WERE RAISED UPON HIGH BY ALL THEIR PEERS AND MADE LEADERS.
AND THEY SPOKE THE WORD OF GOD.
AND THE WORD WAS ...........................................FEAR.
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Old 10-11-2004, 05:50 AM   #125 (permalink)
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Ferre I assume you are joking when you write that and knowing you, maybe not. Regardless it very dangerous to even make light of what God says as what the following verses read.

Revelation 22:18-19 says: "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

I sincerly hope and pray that God forgives your ignorance.
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Old 10-11-2004, 05:54 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Brother, I'm a minister of church and there is a slight chanse I know the Bible a lot better then most people, you like quotes do you? Well, chew on this one:

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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
It's about your hero.
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Old 10-11-2004, 05:54 AM   #127 (permalink)
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What is your view of other religions, eg buddhists, Docquesting?
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:06 AM   #128 (permalink)
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I dont have a problem with any of them although it is sad they dont go by the Word of God.

I know "Good sincere people" In several differant ones but that doesnt make it right.

"that doesnt make it right" part a lot of people would debate that too but I hope you understand where I am coming from.
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Yeah I was just interested. I just wonder how you can be sure that christianity is the "real" one, and why it isnt one of the more popular religions? Perhaps their religion is real, and we don't get into whatever afterlife they see, and are cast away...
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I am glad you were interested. I want to make sure I come across the right way to everybody. We are all the same no matter who we are.
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I am glad you were interested. I want to make sure I come across the right way to everybody. We are all the same no matter who we are.
...but only christians own the truth.
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...but only christians own the truth.
Only God is Truth and by Him we have His Word. The Bible.

If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." - John 8:31-32
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And Busshists also have texts which say that they are following the truth. Every religion does. You just happen to have been born in western society into a Christian family.
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If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." - John 8:31-32
Sure, whateva.

It would be more accurate if you would add "I believe" only God is truth. This would be a whole lot more realistic. See, there are millions on this earth who do not believe this to be true, in fact there are more people on this earth who do not believe so than there are people who do.

I don't mind you giving us your opinion but please realize that's what it is..your opinion, not "the truth".

I know people who believe we all come from another planet originally and they also believe this to be the only truth. Cmon Doc, learn how to communicate with others without bringing up theories as absolute truth.

I don't mind your beliefs, I even respect them but do not try to bring them as if it's an absolute proven fact, it isn't.
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Well see the problem is you wrong again there is an absolute Truth and that is GOD and He is Truth so by saying otherwise regardless of what millions of others think, I would be a liar.

Therefore I really cant just say I beleive becuase it is a fact.
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Well see the problem is you wrong again there is an absolute Truth and that is GOD and He is Truth so by saying otherwise regardless of what millions of others think, I would be a liar.

Therefore I really cant just say I beleive becuase it is a fact.
Correction brother; You believe it to be a fact. And I respect that.
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I am glad you do although I still have say otherwise.
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