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10-11-2004, 10:46 AM
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Would be really strange seeing it in shops, where here it comes from guys on the street corners. Is it bought in bags or something?
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Are you taking the pi55? Amsterdam: city of sin!! Street corners?
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10-11-2004, 10:48 AM
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Are you like the leader of the dutch THC?
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Interesting Question, I am seen as the European leader of our church and the other day I was in London for some meetings and I got introduced by a UK minister as "our Bishop". Personally I'm not into titles at all but being one of the founders and as one of the ministers of our church who is often in the public attention I can understand that people see me as someone 'important'.
Myself I only want to see people happy that's all.
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10-11-2004, 11:01 AM
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To be able to use Cannabis is only a symptom of the freedom in our country, it's what is on the surface and shows. I could give you a thousand other examples of why we are more free than other people on this planet but those don't show that much.
See, every single research has proven that cannabis is not a danger for general public health at all so there is not a legal jurisdiction for the State to tell us not to do it... according to our constitution. Just as "privacy" is a right the State can not interfere with or put laws on exept for laws to protect it.
maybe hard to understand for others but here the government is "in service" of the people, they only manage our country, we do not need them to manage the people, we are adults with a very good education system and we are very well able to make up our own minds about what we can do or not. For criminal things as stealing and such of course we have laws but we do not want any laws telling us how to act or what we can do. That's forbidden by our constitution.
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10-11-2004, 11:04 AM
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I really feal sorry for you. Your also misleading people sending them to the wrong place and your also just using dope to replace the real thing.
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10-11-2004, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by docquesting
I really feal sorry for you. Your also misleading people sending them to the wrong place and your also just using dope to replace the real thing.
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I feel sorry for you too brother, for other reasons that would offend you when I would write it down but hey this is a forum on the internet and we have free speech here so go ahead and tell me again you do not agree with me.
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10-11-2004, 11:14 AM
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lol well we both should know that by now or we are both really dumb. 
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10-11-2004, 11:30 AM
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Is it just me, or does the smile (  ) look angry?
Doc, you should take a lesson from Aaron's teachings:
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...understanding and respect for our fellow human beings.
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10-11-2004, 12:06 PM
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Hey those are my teachings too.
BTW, Doc, have you ever noticed that Jesus was teaching Buddhism?
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10-11-2004, 12:40 PM
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Yeah, wooops! Ferre's teachings.
It's been said that Jesus is a reincarnation of Buddha.
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10-11-2004, 12:43 PM
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When I questioned Doc about Buddhism earlier, he said he feels sorry for them. Yet there is alot of religous 'evidence' to suggest there are very strong links between Buddhism and Christianity..
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Both Buddha and Jesus were baptized in the presence of the spirit of G-D.
Both went to their temples at the age of twelve, where they are said to have astonished all with their wisdom.
Both supposedly fasted in solitude for a long time: Buddha for 47 days and Jesus for 40.
At the conclusion of their fasts they both wandered to a fig tree.
Both were about the same age when the began their public ministry: When he [Buddha] went again to the garden he saw a monk who was calm, tranquil, self-possessed, serene, and dignified. The prince determined to become such a monk, was led to make the great denunciation. At the time he was 29 years of age....Jesus when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age... Luke 3:23
Both were tempted by the devil at the beginning of their ministry: To Buddha, he said: Go not forth to adopt a religious life but return to your kingdom, and in seven days you shall become emperor of the world, riding over the four continents. To Jesus he said: All these [kingdoms of the world] I will give you, if you fall down and worship me. Matt 4:9 Buddha answered the devil: Get away from me Jesus responded ...begone Satan! Matt 4:10.
Both experienced the supernatural after the devil left: For Buddha: The skies rained flowers, and delicious odors prevailed in the air. For Jesus ..angels came and ministered to him. Matt 4:11.
The multitudes required a sign from both in order that they might believe.
Both strove to establish a kingdom of heaven on earth.
Buddha represented himself as a mere link in a long chain of enlightened teachers. Jesus said: Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them.Matt 5:17.
According to the Somadeva (a Buddhist holy book), a Buddhist ascetic's eye once offended him, so he plucked it our and cast it away. Jesus said 'If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away;...' Matt 5:29.
Buddha taught that the motive of all our actions should be pity of love of our neighbor. Jesus taught: ...love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.... Matt 5:4.
Buddha said: Hide your good deeds and confess before the world the sins you have committed. Jesus said: Beware of practicing your piety before men to be seen by them;...Matt 6:1 and Therefore confess your sins one to another and pray one for another, that you may be healed... James 5:16.
Both are said to have known the thoughts of others: By directing his mind to the thoughts of others, [Buddha] can know the thoughts of all beings. But Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said: Why do you think evil in our hearts? Matt 9:4.
Both were itinerant preachers with a close group of trustees within a larger group of disciples.
Both demanded that their disciples renounce all worldly possessions.
Both sent their disciples on missionary assignments: The number of disciples rapidly increased and Gautama sent forth his monks on missionary tours hither and thither, bidding them wander everywhere, preaching the doctrine, and teaching men to order their lives with self -restraint, simplicity, and charity. And Jesus called to him twelve apostle and began to send them out two by two....So they went out and preached that men should repent. Mark 6:7,
Both had a disciple who walked on water: To convert skeptical villagers, Buddha showed them his disciple walking across a river without sinking. He said: Come So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus but when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out: Lord save me! Matt 14:29-30. 21. One day Ananda, the disciple of Buddha, after a long walk in the country, meets with Matangi, a woman of the low caste of the Kandalas, near a well, and asks her for some water. She tells him what she is, and that she must not come near him. But he replies: My sister, I ask not for your caste of your family, I ask only for a draught of water. She afterwards became a disciple of Buddha. There came a woman of Samaria to draw water. Jesus said to her give me a drink. For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food. The Samaritan woman said to him: How is it that you a Jew, ask a drink of me, a woman of Samaria? For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans. John 4:7-9
Both men received similar receptions: The people swept a pathway, the gods strewed flowers on the pathway and branches of the coral trees, the men bore branches of all manner of trees and the Bodhisattva Sumedha spread his garments in the mire, and men and gods shouted All hail. And they brought the colt to Jesus mad threw their garments on it, and he sat on it. And many spread their garments on the road and others spread leafy branches which they has cut from the fields. Mark 11:7 -8.
When Buddha died: The coverings of [his] body unrolled themselves and the lid of his coffin was opened by supernatural powers. When Jesus dies: And behold, there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the L-RD descended from heaven and came and rolled back the stone and sat upon it. Matt 28:2
In the year 217 B.C. Buddhist missionaries were imprisoned for preaching; but and angel, genie or spirit came and opened the prison door, and liberated them. They arrested the apostles and put them in the common prison. But at night an angel of the L-RD opened the prison doors and brought them out. Acts 5:18-19.
Both men's disciples are said to have been miracle workers.
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10-11-2004, 12:55 PM
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There is no need to put that in there. Relegion has you beleive otherwise.
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Well, I just thought that it might be a good idea after reading this post ...
This is where you start to lose people, with your self righteous over the top religious zealotness (is that even a word?). I can't believe that you would put "I think everyone should be the same way unlesss something is really wrong", that is just so baffling that I had to read it 4 times before I believed that you would write that.
This may shock you, in fact I know you don't believe it. But there are people, who live a good and moral life, without gods (or God). He isn't the answer to everything, and to a lot of people, he isn't the answer to anything.
So you can have your beliefs and thats cool, but to go around saying that other people aren't 'right' if they don't believe what you do is unreal, and also fairly rude.
... and also I was thinking that seeing as how this was not church or a religious revival or the like and that the forum isn't designed for preaching, that exercising a little (human) wisdom i.e. I believe you'll go to hell vs you'll go to hell, might not be a bad idea and could possibly save you a lot of grief and even allow your preaching to continue.
But I could be wrong. Just a friendly suggestion Doc, that's all. 
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10-11-2004, 01:12 PM
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Doc quotes:
"it very dangerous to even make light of what God says" ...
"I sincerly hope and pray that God forgives your ignorance."
I think that these are some good examples of what the poster meant by "over the top", and I thought well... if you phrased stuff more like opinions then it might be better, and you can still get your message across..
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10-11-2004, 01:13 PM
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You know that he's posessed though. The darkness of Satan has consumed his soul.
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10-11-2004, 01:17 PM
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Yes he's going to hell... I'll pray for him.
But ... that's all I meant by this, Doc:
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You forgot the "I believe" part.
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10-11-2004, 01:28 PM
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he's not going to hell Atom, his God has compassion with the weak. 
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10-11-2004, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferre
See, every single research has proven that cannabis is not a danger for general public health at all so there is not a legal jurisdiction for the State to tell us not to do it... according to our constitution.
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Ferre you don't need to try and convince anyone you're not a fruit cake; it's OK we believe thee brother.
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10-11-2004, 02:36 PM
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Well, to come back on the subject of the presidential debates, I wish the American go | |