Bush in the lead - Page 2

Leader of Men · 11-02-2004, 09:54 PM

No one is forcing you to stay

docquesting · 11-02-2004, 10:09 PM

Buskerdoo · 11-02-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by awall19

I might need to look at rent rates for appartments in other countries.

I've been to a lot of places and can't recommend anything better.

You should be feeling pretty good about Penn. Maybe your seo, blogging, ads, etc helped make that state a big Kerry win?

ehman · 11-02-2004, 10:29 PM

If Bush takes ohio he WILL win. If Kerry takes ohio he has a good chance at winning.

I think ohio will be the new Florida.

**South** · 11-02-2004, 10:41 PM

Fox just projected Ohio for Bush!

imaginemn · 11-02-2004, 10:45 PM

Bush really does not need Ohio. Michigan is such a close race that if Bush wins MI (17), NM (5) and AK (3) that's 273 without winning Ohio (20).

Looks like Bush has several options and Kerry is running out of options if he loses Ohio (20) and Michigan (17).

It's such a numbers game.

imaginemn

ehman · 11-02-2004, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by southnow

Fox just projected Ohio for Bush!

ohio is 51 to 49 (was 51 to 48.) on cnn bush in the lead, seems way too close to call.

imaginemn · 11-02-2004, 11:00 PM

NBC News just gave Ohio and Alaska to Bush. He is at 269. 1 more state to go.

imaginemn

ATLien · 11-02-2004, 11:03 PM

Unofficially Bush has WON!!!!!!

Kerry can not get 270 with out Ohio. Which Bush unofficially won!!!

Wahoo!! Go Bush!!

imaginemn · 11-02-2004, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLien

Unofficially Bush has WON!!!!!!

Kerry can not get 270 with out Ohio. Which Bush unofficially won!!!

Wahoo!! Go Bush!!

The worst case scenerio is that Kerry sweeps the rest of the states would be a 269-269 tie which then would go to the House of Representatives to pick the President and they would pick Bush and now since the Republicans have control of the Senate they would pick Cheney as Vice President. BIG night for Republicans.

imaginemn

docquesting · 11-02-2004, 11:16 PM

But then you got all these crasy lawyers running loose that need to go well I dunno where.

awall19 · 11-03-2004, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Buskerdoo

I've been to a lot of places and can't recommend anything better.

You should be feeling pretty good about Penn. Maybe your seo, blogging, ads, etc helped make that state a big Kerry win?

I am hugely depressed. even my damn roommate was too lazy to vote. my whole family was too. what pieces of garbage.

talk about pissing someone off.

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Originally Posted by imaginemn

Bush really does not need Ohio. Michigan is such a close race that if Bush wins MI (17), NM (5) and AK (3) that's 273 without winning Ohio (20).

Looks like Bush has several options and Kerry is running out of options if he loses Ohio (20) and Michigan (17).

no way Bush wins MI...think of the urban areas with more dense voting ... the urban areas get count latest.

as far as Ohio goes I did a bit of calculating and after all of them come in it looks like Bush by about 10,000 - 30,000 votes there prior to provisional and absentee ballots.

though Ohio is a bit sketchy:
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/arc..._31.php#003922

http://www.bobharris.com/index.php?o...d=120&Itemid=2

littleFella · 11-03-2004, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by southnow

Fox just projected Ohio for Bush!

Why would it be significant what FOX projected? I'm pretty sure I could project what FOX will project next year, before they actually project it

Atom · 11-03-2004, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by awall19

I am hugely depressed. even my damn roommate was too lazy to vote. my whole family was too. what pieces of garbage.

talk about pissing someone off.

Maybe voting should be mandatory ... you think?

awall19 · 11-03-2004, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Atom

Maybe voting should be mandatory ... you think?

no. but I think the legal B/S determining the elections and people losing tens of thousands of ballots in the mail makes people lose confidence in the system and makes it less functional.

note how much crap Ed Gillespie and co will give the democrats for wanting a total count of Ohio...and also note how the GOP tried to deny many voters the right to vote in that same state.

Atom · 11-03-2004, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by littleFella

Why would it be significant what FOX projected? I'm pretty sure I could project what FOX will project next year, before they actually project it

I don't think that projecting is a good idea.

Atom · 11-03-2004, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by awall19

no. but I think the legal B/S determining the elections and people losing tens of thousands of ballots in the mail makes people lose confidence in the system and makes it less functional.

Yeah I agree, but TBH, to me these are just minor reasons for the apathy of many toward anything political, not just voting. But those legal and mail issues etc... are rather sad.

Sometimes I think that I just do not understand our political system, because it has never ever made any genuine sense to me, where as it seems to to a lot of people. I just am totally stumped, always have been, and still am to this day. I realize that it's supposedly the best way and all we've got, but this fact also has me stumped. Out of how many billions of people are we getting these 2 or 3 to choose from, and how the hell did they get there, again?

Doesn't make sense to me. I think I'm just politically stupid, to tell you the truth.

Atom · 11-03-2004, 01:08 AM

That politician guy from Ohio, the black guy ... I don't know his name but, he just said on TV that our most precious right is the right to vote.

I have never been convinced of this, ever. I truly hope that I see the day when I can actually believe this.

I will not march myself into some both to vote for what I pathetically believe is the lesser of 2 evils. I just won't do it! If I had to, then I would, but I'm just glad that I do not have to.

awall19 · 11-03-2004, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Atom

Yeah I agree, but TBH, to me these are just minor reasons for the apathy of many toward anything political, not just voting. But those legal and mail issues etc... are rather sad.

Sometimes I think that I just do not understand our political system, because it has never ever made any genuine sense to me, where as it seems to to a lot of people. I just am totally stumped, always have been, and still am to this day. I realize that it's supposedly the best way and all we've got, but this fact also has me stumped. Out of how many billions of people are we getting these 2 or 3 to choose from, and how the hell did they get there, again?

Doesn't make sense to me. I think I'm just politically stupid, to tell you the truth.

in all fairness our political system is complete horse ****. its not just you. and people want you think it is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but for the most part you are just choosing what corporations run the company through what puppets.

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Originally Posted by Atom

That politician guy from Ohio, the black guy ... I don't know his name but, he just said on TV that our most precious right is the right to vote.

I have never been convinced of this, ever. I truly hope that I see the day when I can actually believe this.

until many hundreds of thousands (or millions) of people die in an unneeded war you probably will not see enough of a backlash to reform the broken pieces of our political system.

evilregis · 11-03-2004, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Atom

That politician guy from Ohio, the black guy ... I don't know his name but, he just said on TV that our most precious right is the right to vote.

I have never been convinced of this, ever. I truly hope that I see the day when I can actually believe this.

That was the Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell. And he's also the guy that was trying to prevent people from being able to vote because their voter registration wasn't printed on the proper paper weight.

A shining beacon protecting people's precious right to vote.