What Destroyed The World Trade Centers?

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I know ...it's best to be brief in here ...myself think I'm getting paralysis of the fingeralysis.

[gorillaboy]

Jonathan, why are you so angry?

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Originally Posted by gorillaboy

Jonathan, why are you so angry?

He got pissed at me cause I made a remark about him suggesting locking this thread down ...now I realize since he explained, he was only joking.

I think it's a natural progression too towards accepting such a distressing notion that the U.S. government was actively complicit in the 911 murders.

Just as Gandhi shrewdly observed four distinct stages of a movement's progress:



"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win."


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[gorillaboy]

Makes sense.


What is the ultimate goal of the current US administration?

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1 - Syphon off all wealth from the U.S. Treasury

2 - Sell off the remaining gold reserves which backs our currency

3 - Pay off foreign debts with common properties (national forests, mineral rights, etc.)

4 - Issue an abundance of worthless banknotes via The Federal Reserve

5 - Accumulate all wealth at the top of a few elite interests

6 - Enact laws which prohibit the people from interfering

7 - Cause a financial collapse of the U.S. economy

8 - Create a one world economy & dictatorship

9 - Exterminate 80% of the global population

10 - Divide world leadership and its jurisdictions into ten (10) parts


Keep in mind that the last action of any falling regime is to rob the treasury. Whether or not the current U.S. administration achieves its ultimate goals remains to be seen.



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[Jonathan VanSchaack]

i knew i said i'd not look in here, but something is flawed in that last post

2 - Sell off the remaining gold reserves which backs our currency

the US and most of the world has been off the gold standard for a long time now

7 - Cause a financial collapse of the U.S. economy

our economy cant be in better shape, yes our currency is low value right now but with asll that

- we still have the largest economy in the world
- low valuye of dollar just means our merchandise is selling better, we are a cheap vacation spot of other countries, and our services are even cheaper. Take the UK, I've seen more UK customers now then before, why? because $1 = 2 lbs its like a 50% off sales for them :-p and this just means it will help our growth, ppl ave to stop just looking at the bad sides of things

8 - Create a one world economy & dictatorship

one world economy and government be bad thing? .. i'm a trekkie so I'm hoping one day we are all united under one cause, to better humanity and strive for something better

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...sorry Jonathan, no offense, but you've been watching far too many Fox News reports.


...time to LOCK THREAD!



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[Jonathan VanSchaack]

i dont watch TV

and I dont need news to tell me what I see in my 2 jobs

but anyway its late got work tomorrow

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Originally Posted by Jonathan VanSchaack

i dont watch TV

and I dont need news to tell me what I see in my 2 jobs

but anyway its late got work tomorrow

Roger that, no TV watching here either.

...I only hope, and I do pray, you're correct that everything'll be alright.



...night dude.


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Firsthand, on the scene witnesses to 911 reported effects which can only be attributed to shock waves that always accompany & follow explosions.

Don Halasy: "As I turned to run, a wall of warm air came barreling toward me. I tried to outrace it, but it swept me up and literally blew me into the wall of a building. By the time I regained my footing, a hailstorm of debris was falling from the sky."

* Notice how the “hailstorm of debris” fell from the sky moments AFTER Halasay was thrown to the ground.

David Handschuh: "Instinctively I lifted the camera up, and something took over that probably saved my life. And that was to run rather than take pictures. I got down to the end of the block and turned the corner when a wave – a hot, solid, black wave of heat threw me down the block. It literally picked me up off my feet, and I wound up about a block away."

What each of these witnesses are describing is known as the “shock wave effect”. When an explosion goes off, extremely high temperatures are generated in a small amount of time and space. This abrupt shift in temperature causes the air to push outwards with violent force, seeking to stabilize itself. The result is a blast of hot air radiating in all directions.

For more evidence of this effect, check out the following video footage of a Czech helicopter crew filming the events of 911…

Helicopter Crew experiencing severe shock wave

If the collapse alone had caused this shock wave, there should have been a delayed reaction, but you can clearly see the helicopter is getting thrown back by the blast of air just as the first bit of debris touches the ground. This video evidence shows that an explosion occurred moments before the collapse.

More evidence of explosives is shown in this video with surviving firemen telling of their own firsthand experience:

MPEG film of NY firemen discussing the explosions

The below footage was shot by a camera mounted on a tripod. Notice how, moments before the collapse, the ground shakes for a full 3 seconds. This was the very same vibration many eyewitnesses felt right before the towers fell.

NORTH TOWER COLLAPSE




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[gorillaboy]

Notice how the “hailstorm of debris” fell from the sky moments AFTER Halasay was thrown to the ground.

He doesn't say, "moments after". I would imagine that debris would be falling for a while since there was so much of it.

The North Tower collapse footage is pretty interesting...and quite chilling.

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You know what's so incredible to me? ...its' the fact that with all the eyewitness statements, all the videos of 911, all the inconsistencies in the gov's "official" report ...with all the mounting evidence that clearly shows the WTC Towers were brought down by explosives, what's so unfu*king believable is how most people absolutely refuse to see the truth.

You might expect a person who's absolutely ignorant, so stupid and afraid to think for themselves to just bury their heads in the sand and believe the bullsh*t about 911 as reported in the mainstream media.



...but hey, we're talking reasonably intelligent, modern-day humans who, for the most part, can usually tell the difference between reality and a scam. Instead, it appears the entire U.S. population has turned its back on sound reasoning and understanding, preferring to shut themselves off from seeing, hearing, or speaking the truth.

...what's really going on?



...are we becoming a new breed of fat, lazy, see nothing, know nothings concerned only with fantasy and entertainment?


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[gorillaboy]

are we becoming a new breed of fat, lazy, see nothing, know nothings concerned only with fantasy and entertainment?

Yes.

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Victor Thorn & Lisa Guliani To Hold Trial On 911 Crime



In March, 2005, WING TV will present “9-11 on Trial” which will examine the government’s explanation of events following the terror attacks of September 11, 2001. Specifically, the focal point of these proceedings will be: did burning jet fuel cause the collapse of each World Trade Center tower?

A subsequent trial in mid-to-late 2005 will take into consideration whether Flight 77 – a Boeing 757 – struck the Pentagon.

To prosecute this case, Victor & Lisa are going to rely solely on verifiable scientific data of the highest order (as opposed to the obvious pitfalls associated with “theory”). In this sense, their focus will be exclusively directed at the CAUSE of the towers’ collapse, and not any peripheral SYMPTOMS.

WING TV is engaging in this project for two primary reasons: (a) to counteract a “black hole” of sorts that has engulfed previous and/or current 9-11 lawsuits, all of which seem to be squashed, in limbo, or severely compromised; and (b) to show that this case can be proven in a court of law relying solely on verifiable scientific facts, physics, and the laws of nature.

At this point Victor & Lisa have amassed mountains of data ...however, if anyone would like to submit material which fits the above-mentioned criteria, their contributions are most welcome.

“9-11 on Trial” promises to be an historic event, for it will be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt – in a courtroom setting for all the world to see – that the government’s explanation of events were nothing more than bold-faced lies.

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[Atom]

Sounds fair enough. Especially seeing as how the physical evidence was illegally destroyed. But who's going to step up to prosecute the pres for this crime? Unbiased experts all over this world were drooling to examine that evidence and the government knew it. I guess I would order it destroyed too, if I had something to hide. If I had nothing to hide, then AT LEAST SOME OF IT would be there for all to see. But it isn't there, now is it folks! This 9/11 on trial thing wouldn't even need to take place had that evidence not been illegally whisked away!

Please keep us informed of the exact dates this is to take place, notepad.

Does anyone know where the material other than the beams was dumped and if access is allowed, or even if it is accessible (not burried or burned etc)? Might there be physical evidence in this material?

[notepad]

...roger that.



...we're gonna keep an eye on it and let ya know.


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Originally Posted by Atom

Does anyone know where the material other than the beams was dumped and if access is allowed, or even if it is accessible (not burried or burned etc)? Might there be physical evidence in this material?

Most of the steel was shipped overseas to smelters, such as China. Still more WTC pulverized building debris is buried (and guarded) locally in the New York vicinity ...right along with the remains of 911 victims. Their families were never allowed to have, nor bury what little remained of their relatives & friends.

...what a fine fu*king gov we have.


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[Atom]

From what I understand from this past friday's Wing TV, the "9-11 on trial" video, which is a video version of the book "9-11 on trial" by Victor Thorn, is going to start the week after this coming, which would be the week of March 6.

Looking forward to that.

[Ferre]

Check out this shockwave video file of a clip from CNN coverage on the morning of 9/11. CNN reporter Jamie McIntyre says he inspected the Pentagon site and it is obvious no plane crashed there.