What Destroyed The World Trade Centers? - Page 17

notepad · 03-06-2005, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferre

the message would be plain information if I was the one who could choose, I think that people are very well capable of making their own mind up, as long as they are given all the facts instead of limited facts and lots of propaganda.

The advice I would give people is to think twice before taking actions, and to always remind that every person on earth loves to kuddle their children and see them grow up in a healthy invironment and free to develope intellectually, spiritually and culturaly to be happy people who can live in peace and with peave of mind to have good times with their families and friends, just as anyone else.

Does that make sense?

Yes, reminding people that it's wonderful to cuddle and nurture their children in a healthy environment ...yes those are good virtues, good suggestions ...and reminding them alone would make sense in a pre-existing peaceful, idyllic, compassionate world filled with love, truth, empathy and happiness.

However Ferre, we're living in the end times here ...we're right on the edge ...we're on the cusp of total destruction and annihilation ...what is our call to action message to the people? ...what are our wise instructions to our citizens to help rescue mankind from potential extinction?

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Ferre · 03-06-2005, 01:41 PM

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However Ferre, we're living in the end times here ...we're right on the edge

Well, that's the same crap balony as all the other propaganda that has been spread over the public and I am aware that there are millions of people in the USA who are really convinced of that armaggedon crap that has been nested into their brains.

It's bollocks, replace it with another vision and you are rid of it, as simple as that, American people have no idea of the immens fear they are living in, the fear is so deep rooted that it becomes almost touchable for outsiders, it became part of daily life, THAT is what the American people need to shake off if they ever want to change something about their own destination.

There is nothing to fear except for the crimes of corrupted bureacrats/politicians. once people really understand this and understand there's nothing to fear the climate for changes is reached.

The propaganda machine has made fatalism and fear into a state of mind in America and other parts of this world, this can be broken, it's collective thoughts, nothing more...thoughts and a state of mind.

If people want changes, people need to vision them first, governments are very aware of this and that's why they carefully plant visions of a by them constructed future in our collective minds, like what they did after 9/11, first a lot of talking about attacking "the enamy" so that people got used to the idea of war and revenge and started to vision it and when it happened it didn't look and sound as surreal as before anymore, that's how it works.

Same with that armaggedon issue, it's surreal and planted in people's minds, they made people accept the story and the possibility that they might destroy our earth with their wars and than go ahead doing it.

Atom · 03-06-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by notepad

.. we're living in the end times here

I believe this as well.

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Originally Posted by notepad

....we're right on the edge

This I can't agree with because the bible says that no one shall know the exact time, but I can say that it certainly does seem so.

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Originally Posted by notepad

...we're on the cusp of total destruction and annihilation ...what is our call to action message to the people?

Accept Jesus Christ as your personal saviour.

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Originally Posted by notepad

...what are our wise instructions to our citizens to help rescue mankind from potential extinction?

I do not believe that mankind is capable of rescuing themselves from potential extinction. I do think that it is natural to try, however, but I really don't have any suggestions for that, I guess.

notepad · 03-06-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferre

Well, that's the same crap balony as all the other propaganda that has been spread over the public and I am aware that there are millions of people in the USA who are really convinced of that armaggedon crap that has been nested into their brains.

It's bollocks, replace it with another vision and you are rid of it, as simple as that, American people have no idea of the immens fear they are living in, the fear is so deep rooted that it becomes almost touchable for outsiders, it became part of daily life, THAT is what the American people need to shake off if they ever want to change something about their own destination.

There is nothing to fear except for the crimes of corrupted bureacrats/politicians. once people really understand this and understand there's nothing to fear the climate for changes is reached.

The propaganda machine has made fatalism and fear into a state of mind in America and other parts of this world, this can be broken, it's collective thoughts, nothing more...thoughts and a state of mind.

If people want changes, people need to vision them first, governments are very aware of this and that's why they carefully plant visions of a by them constructed future in our collective minds, like what they did after 9/11, first a lot of talking about attacking "the enamy" so that people got used to the idea of war and revenge and started to vision it and when it happened it didn't look and sound as surreal as before anymore, that's how it works.

Same with that armaggedon issue, it's surreal and planted in people's minds, they made people accept the story and the possibility that they might destroy our earth with their wars and than go ahead doing it.

I recognize and agree that trancending fear and having the requisite courage to speak out and act are necessary to challenge the forces working against us here.

...yet as one of the people's wise and benevolent leaders, what are YOUR instructions and SPECIFIC advice for the masses? Exactly what are the actual steps each and every American needs to follow now?

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notepad · 03-06-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Atom

I believe this as well. This I can't agree with because the bible says that no one shall know the exact time, but I can say that it certainly does seem so.Accept Jesus Christ as your personal saviour.I do not believe that mankind is capable of rescuing themselves from potential extinction. I do think that it is natural to try, however, but I really don't have any suggestions for that, I guess.

The previous questions were rhetorical presentations, hypothetical scenarios submitted to Ferre and meant to solicit his ideas, his advice and his "call to action" words ...pretending he/we were the ones in charge of leading people out of enslavement and into prosperity.

Somehow he deviated into religion and Armageddon ...that's unfortunate, especially had it been a real situation where people were relying on his/our prudent leadership and guidance ...they would have received only empty preaching and condemnation of someone, or something else ...which avoided giving any concrete, step-by-step advice.

Anyone can criticize the powers at be; however, doing so doesn't model an actual course for change.

Such it is in this world ...no real answers for anything, just another version of the same.

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Atom · 03-06-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by notepad

The previous questions were rhetorical presentations, hypothetical scenarios submitted to Ferre and meant to solicit his ideas, his advice and his "call to action" words ...pretending he/we were the ones in charge of leading people out of enslavement and into prosperity.

Somehow he deviated into religion and Armageddon ...that's unfortunate, especially had it been a real situation where people were relying on his/our prudent leadership and guidance ...they would have received only empty preaching and condemnation of someone, or something else ...which avoided giving any concrete, step-by-step advice.

Anyone can criticize the powers at be; however, doing so doesn't model an actual course for change.

Such it is in this world ...no real answers for anything, just another version of the same.

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I hear ya.

Your list of suggestions seems fairly reasonable.

notepad · 03-06-2005, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Atom

I hear ya.

Your list of suggestions seems fairly reasonable.

I would very much like to extend and add to that list:

* Boycott the corporations and products which wreak havoc upon our environment, hurt people, or which are deemed detrimental to our economy

* Withdraw all funds from large, networked banks & start banking at small, community banks

* Do not invest, or do business with companies that made political donations to the Bush campaign

* Soldiers must refuse to fight in illegal wars against Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, N. Korea ...or against any other innocent country targeted by the neocons in Washington

* Educate yourself about the 911 coup of this government (unrealized by the masses), become aware of what big gov is really doing and tell others

* Start using "less" ...instead of wasteful excess; be more conservation minded and look for alternative, independent ways to provide for yourself

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notepad · 03-06-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by younghistorians

hehe...nice discussion guys...you could always try to discuss this on my forums

Why would we want to? ...especially considering you previously said in another post that you'd like to kill whoever made available a movie file contesting some of the gov's 911 FALSE information.

your post: http://www.v7n.com/forums/showthread...4&page=1&pp=20

...what kind of historian are you? ...one who only documents history data given by thieves, liars and murderers?

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Ferre · 03-06-2005, 06:06 PM

I think that we, the people need a set of rules kind of similar for the bankers and weapon industries, as have been written by scientist for our health issues.

These are the ones written to protect our health by an expert:

http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/P...chemnitz15.htm

now I can imagine a set of rules for politics and other issues that would look like those above for medicins. The above is, of course, not supported by politicians anywhere.

notepad · 03-06-2005, 09:15 PM

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Holly · 03-07-2005, 07:42 PM

I have seen that quite often on other European forums that you can actually see WHO voted WHAT. So what? It´s nice to come to know each other that way, too. I guess, some just voted for fun for one option or the other.
Very nice forum, by the way!!!

Cheers to all

))

notepad · 03-07-2005, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly

I have seen that quite often on other European forums that you can actually see WHO voted WHAT. So what? It´s nice to come to know each other that way, too. I guess, some just voted for fun for one option or the other.
Very nice forum, by the way!!!

Cheers to all

))

Yes, it's truly a wonderful life.

...will you vote here today Holly, or are you just passing through?

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notepad · 03-07-2005, 08:29 PM

The introduction to the 911 Trial begins today on Wing TV.

Make sure you have Real Player and tune in now to...

Watch 911 On Trial

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gorillaboy · 03-07-2005, 08:48 PM

Real Player - BARF..PUKE...UPCHUCK!

Atom · 03-07-2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gorillaboy

Real Player - BARF..PUKE...UPCHUCK!

Yeah, not my fav .. but I made an exception for this.

notepad · 03-07-2005, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gorillaboy

Real Player - BARF..PUKE...UPCHUCK!

Haven't you got some house cleaning to do?

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notepad · 03-07-2005, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Atom

Yeah, not my fav .. but I made an exception for this.

Today was basically just the intro to the "trial" ...as the show progresses, it promises to get more lively.

Monday, March 7: Victor & Lisa Introduction
Tuesday, March 8: Lisa Guliani - Opening Statement
Wednesday, March 9: Witness # 1 - Government's "Official" Story
Thursday, March 10: Witness # 2 - Evidence Tampering
Friday, March 11: Witness # 3 - World Trade Center Design

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Atom · 03-07-2005, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by notepad

Today was basically just the intro to the "trial" ...as the show progresses, it promises to get more lively.

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Yeah true.

They are all going to be stacked up for future viewing though, as they come out, I hope, right?

Like if I missed the wednesday one or something, I'd be able to view it the following wed or w/e right?