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View Poll Results: What caused the WTC buildings to fall?
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faulty, poor grade construction steel
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jet airliners crashing into the towers
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subsequent fires weakening the structures
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a combination of airliners crashing & the fires
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a bomb or missile attached to the plane(s)
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combination of all of the above
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angry UFO alien death ray beam
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strategically placed demolition charges
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03-18-2005, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
LOL. Okay, you're overwhelming proof has just convinced me.
Oops. What proof?

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...guess you haven't actually taken the time to read this thread.
Allow me to suggest that you find opportunity to do so.
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03-18-2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
LOL. Okay, you're overwhelming proof has just convinced me.
Oops. What proof?

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NOT actual prove John, BUT ENOUGH circomstancial evidence TO JUSTIFY a very detailed investigation in these matters in mine, and many others opinion.
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03-18-2005, 10:07 PM
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This thread is still going?
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03-18-2005, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Buskerdoo
This thread is still going?
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...yep ...where ya been?
question: do you still think fires caused the WTC towers to fall?
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03-18-2005, 11:25 PM
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Ferre,
1. Al Qaeda claims responsibility for the attacks.
2. Hundreds of phone calls from hijacked airplanes tell the same story - of being hijacked.
3. Claiming otherwise without proof, in the face of overwhelming proof, just diminishes your credibility while needlessly mocking the victims.
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03-19-2005, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
Ferre,
1. Al Qaeda claims responsibility for the attacks.
2. Hundreds of phone calls from hijacked airplanes tell the same story - of being hijacked.
3. Claiming otherwise without proof, in the face of overwhelming proof, just diminishes your credibility while needlessly mocking the victims.
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...well guess that settles all the controversy then ...and all the condemming evidence that anyone, or any organization other than those pesky Arabs in jets brought down the World Trade Center buildings.
Thanks for clearing that up for us John ...I'm sure the millions of other people all over the world who think otherwise will be mighty greatful for your insight.
Whew, what a relief ...for years it sure looked like those buildings were demolished by explosives ...golly, was I ever wrong.
With Al Qaeda claiming responsibility now plus all those cell phone calls you mentioned (cell phone calls which previously before your post were impossible to make from such altitudes) ...there's no sense clinging to all this scientific stuff ...like:
> The Law of Gravity
> Galileo's Law Of Falling Bodies
> No steel highrise buildings ever collapsing due to a fire (yet 3 did on 911 in one day)
> Eyewitnesses hearing explosive detonations going off before during & after the WTC buildings collapse
> The fact that a jet fuel & debris fire cannot melt steel
> The fact that the evidence was whisked off to China before it could be examined thoroughly
> WTC lease holder Larry Silverstein admitting he had knowledge of "pulling" the buildings on 911
> The Bush administration directly blocking and inhibiting a 911 investigation from the start
> NORAD intercept protocols completely standing down on 911
...yeah, who needs all that crap ...just a bunch of silly conspiracy theories.
Thanks for the heads up John ...what would we do w/o you? ...I'll tell everyone you've solved the mystery.
...ahhh, it's Miller Time ...turn on the 'ole reliable TV.
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03-19-2005, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
Ferre,
1. Al Qaeda claims responsibility for the attacks.
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Well, the opinions don't all agree with this. Bin Laden has never mentioned any involvement in 9/11 in any of the videos he released untill there was this misterious video that came from "a website" and that got released by the big American 'news' agencies in Oktober 2004(!) but the authenticy of that video is not being proven at all, and no one seems to be able where it came from (a website, hehehe) in fact there are many researchers all around the world who say this video is a fake. The Bin Laden videos that Rumsfeld and Bush claim prove has ties with the 19, actually prove the opposite. In the videos, Bin Laden never claims responsibility even though he praises, even celebrates, the terrorist incidents. Given the nature of his politics and his support of terrorism it is certain that he would take credit if he were responsible.
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
2. Hundreds of phone calls from hijacked airplanes tell the same story - of being hijacked.
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Well, there where not hundreds of phone calls at all John, and again, more questions than answers on that one:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...11&btnG=Search
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
3. Claiming otherwise without proof, in the face of overwhelming proof, just diminishes your credibility while needlessly mocking the victims.
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I never said that those planes have not been hijacked, what I do claim is that every 'official' statement about the events happens to be at least very questionable and that it is very unlikely that the only players involved are Bin Laden and Al Quada, I also believe that the victims deserve that every stone is turned untill the truth has come out.
Untill now the only stones that have been turned are those "allowed by" the US administration, if that doesn't stink, what does?
Besides, if the US government has nothing to hide...why are they hiding (covering up) so much? 
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03-19-2005, 02:25 AM
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03-19-2005, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferre
Besides, if the US government has nothing to hide...why are they hiding (covering up) so much? 
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Exactly, and refusing to answer simple key questions.
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03-19-2005, 03:14 AM
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Hmm, it says that I need to download and install a plug-in, but doesn't specify which one. I'll try opening it in IE ..
<edit> It works in IE. I'll watch it in a little while. Thanks, Ferre.
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03-19-2005, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Atom
Instead of "We are not interested in contributing to the many conspiracy theories regarding the events of that tragic day", that letter from Harold Heilsnis may have well just said: We are not interested in facts or truth, period.
I have a question. Is the federal reserve actually (these 10 or so) international bankers' money?
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...don't know if it answers your question fully, but I posted an answer to your question here: http://www.v7n.com/forums/showpost.p...4&postcount=71
...before JS locked the thread.
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03-19-2005, 04:12 AM
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...that is an EXCELLENT find Ferre ...I'm watching it now ...I will probably be referring others to watch it.
Thanks.
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03-19-2005, 08:10 AM
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notepad, please stop, or your gonna end up a martyr :-p
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03-19-2005, 08:32 AM
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JVS, why does this make you so angry?
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03-19-2005, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by notepad
...guess you haven't actually taken the time to read this thread.
Allow me to suggest that you find opportunity to do so.
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I've read the thread and found nothing but wild conjecture and absurd lies.
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03-19-2005, 10:28 AM
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