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View Poll Results: What caused the WTC buildings to fall?
faulty, poor grade construction steel 2 1.69%
jet airliners crashing into the towers 23 19.49%
subsequent fires weakening the structures 14 11.86%
a combination of airliners crashing & the fires 27 22.88%
a bomb or missile attached to the plane(s) 4 3.39%
combination of all of the above 3 2.54%
angry UFO alien death ray beam 16 13.56%
strategically placed demolition charges 29 24.58%
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Old 03-19-2005, 09:11 PM   #421 (permalink)
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Yeah, but that pisses me off!

I'll just assume my IQ is 145+
No argument there. 145 is fine by me.

It's just that 30 questions are not good enough to test IQ, and missing just one question changes the result significantly.

As for the reliabilty, the tests can be influence by a number of factors and thus not really tell the truth. Stress, family situation, menstruation, weather etc. I had once a subject who scored the IQ of 2!!! The weather was good, it was a guy (therefore ghe did not menstruate, to the best of my knowledge).

Of course it was not a true and reliable result as the IQ of 2 means basically lack of any communication with the subject. I'm pretty sure my coffee mug has an IQ of at least 7.
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Old 03-19-2005, 09:12 PM   #422 (permalink)
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What test are you referring to?
the one posted by notepad.
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the one posted by notepad.
See my edit in post #419.
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No argument there. 145 is fine by me.
LOL, yeah I'll bet that it is.
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See my edit in post #419.
Got it. Looks like I wasn't referring to the test you took. Can't fine the link. This thread is getting too long.
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Got it. Looks like I wasn't referring to the test you took. Can't fine the link. This thread is getting too long.
Yeah, I tried going back to the Emodematch.com that gave the test that I took and was going to quote their explanation of that test but, I didn't see the test and it looks like it's not Emodematch anymore.

Looks like they skipped town!

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Now what if 9/11 was already planned in 1976 by mr. Bush sr. and friends?

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Our own U.S. Army devised a plan commissioned by Congress to bring down the WTC...McNiven, who first went public in an affidavit included in a 9/11-related federal conspiracy (RICO) lawsuit filed against Bush and others in 2004, claims his unit was ordered to create the "perfect terrorist plan" using commercial airliners as weapons and the Twin Towers as their target.....publicized version of the study, commissioned by Congress, was to identify security lapses and submit corrective measures to lawmakers. However, McNiven claims the real purpose of the study was to brainstorm how to pull off the perfect terrorist attack using the exact same 9/11 scenario.

The study, commissioned to C-Battery 2/81st Field Artillery, U.S. Army, stationed in Strassburg, Germany in 1976, specifically devised the scenario of the Twin Towers being leveled by Middle Eastern terrorists using commercial airliners and even plastic box cutters to bypass security. To silence critics, McNiven has successfully passed a credible lie detector test regarding his participation in the study as well as other specific orders given to him by his superiors in case of a real attack on the Twin Towers. The head of the 1976 mock terrorist plan was Lt. Michael Teague of Long Island, who McNiven says was given specific orders by higher-ups in the military to use the Twin Towers as the terrorist target.

McNiven said he has been unable to contact Lt. Teague, but was interested in his opinion now that "the 9/11 attacks happened the way we planned them in 1976."

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"During the course of the terrorist plan we were devising, I made the statement to Lt. Teague that if the WTC was ever attacked like we planned, I'd go public. I was then physically assaulted and told never to reveal anything we were doing regarding the Twin Towers." However, about a week later a strange turn of events occurred. For no apparent reason, McNiven claims his superiors completely changed their minds. "I was given the direct order that if the Twin Towers were ever attacked the way we discussed in the 1976 study, I was to do everything in my power to bring the similarities to the attention of the American people. "I have no idea why they changed their minds, but I was then emphatically told that this order was never to be rescinded - never - because those who would rescind it, would be the very same people who turned against the American people."
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explains how the whole 1976 staffing was put back in place (Rumsfeld, Secretary of State in 1976; Bush Senior, CIA Director in 1976, Nelson Rockfeller as Vice President and almost President after three failed assassination attempts on appointed Ford; Cheney was chief of staff for President Ford in 1976. These three came back together under the son of Bush Senior when George W. Bush was installed by the Supreme Court. Then Bush Senior really back in control once Bush Senior's right hand man, Meuller, was placed as head of the FBI weeks before the 9-11 self hit.
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Now if that doesn reek suspicious, what does?
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Mcniven has his own website, with his picture on the home page:

http://www.codenamegrillfire.com/index.php?n=1&id=1

Seems like a quack at first glace.
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Ferre, you're moving too fast by exposing this information ...Americans aren't ready to accept all this yet ...most are not willing to even consider that the WTC towers were brought down by explosives.

...much less by a treasonous faction within their own government.

Perhaps you should "tone down" any presentations of real facts, or condemning evidence of who actually orchestrated the demolitions ...albeit such information is paramount to fully understanding the events of 911.

I know, I know ...you're wondering how seemingly intelligent individuals can be so easily fooled by an obliging media of corrupt government into accepting the "official" story about 911 ...a story which now stinks like a rotten carcass of deception.

...well, in a phrase ...it's just too overwhelming for people to comprehend ...how an almost inconceivable ascension of treachery could penetrate and exist within the U.S. Executive Branch.

Many citizens in America see their government as the benevolent, loving father who is always there to protect them, provide for their needs ...always having their best interests in mind.

Imagine the emotional trauma of being told your father is in reality a mass murderer, a drug dealer, a liar and a thief ...and he's been committing heinous crimes against humanity and the earth for years.

You would probably be torn between defending him out of blind loyalty (patriotism), or denying the truth (attacking conspiracy theorists) because the truth was too horrible to accept.

...besides making you angry, accepting such facts could completely destroy your family (country), your hopes for the future, your dreams and your security.

...so the almost insurmountable task remains ...convincing junior that his dad's a killer, while still giving him hope for the future.





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Seems like a quack at first glace.
As does the complete US administration, did you take a second glace?
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At second glace, he looks like a quack. And, no, the US administration is one of the few that stepped up to the plate and moved to take Saddam out of power. Iraqis voted in huge numbers for their own leaders for the first time in decades, and I'm proud that we Americans we willing to do what it took to give that to the Iraqi people. We removed a murderer and gave them democracy, and I know it galls you to think it, but the majority of Iraqis are thankful for it.
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Gave them "democracy"?

Yeah right...

Iraq Elections: Farce of the Century

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...9D62290514.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Feb13.html

All the other "prestations" are highly discusionable also, if not war crimes, but as at present times the US has been kicked out of the International Human Rights Committee and has dismissed itself from the Geneva Convention parts in which countries can be sued in international court we will never see any trials in that regard in the future. Btw, the US administration has even made a very special law after 9/11 only to be able to invade my country "legally for US laws" in case there is an international court case against them and the international court happens to be in The Hague, a city in the Netherlands. This is all for real.

The above is in high contrast with "bringing democracy to the world" in these parts of that same world. In these parts of the world this is actually very treatening and scary policies.
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Ferre, your objections are noted, and the election was not perfect, but most Iraqis are happy with it, and they risked their lives in many cases to vote. No election is perfect, but it's a damn good start, and I see a brighter future for Iraq. You seem to be forgetting that Iraqis had no rights under Saddam. He killed 224,000 innocent people, many women and children. By contrast, they are now able to determine their own future. The laws are in place to guarantee that their democracy affords a vote to ALL Iraqis.
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