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View Poll Results: What caused the WTC buildings to fall?
faulty, poor grade construction steel 2 1.69%
jet airliners crashing into the towers 23 19.49%
subsequent fires weakening the structures 14 11.86%
a combination of airliners crashing & the fires 27 22.88%
a bomb or missile attached to the plane(s) 4 3.39%
combination of all of the above 3 2.54%
angry UFO alien death ray beam 16 13.56%
strategically placed demolition charges 29 24.58%
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Old 01-25-2006, 07:39 AM   #641 (permalink)
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Either that or the angry UFO alien death ray beam.
I hate those things. Just when my hair starts to grow back... Whammo. I get beamed again.
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Old 01-25-2006, 08:53 AM   #642 (permalink)
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Considering the huge importance of this issue, and its even grander implications, it's very interesting to hear different viewpoints ...irrespective of anyone's vocational background, education, political interests, or religious affiliations.

To seek answers, to seek the truth about anything is human nature. Sometimes it's necessary to let go of previously held beliefs in order to see reality ...after all, a belief is only secondhand information. Real truth is based on one's actual experience (or as close to it as possible), rather than accepting what someone has told you ...that's kinda like blind faith.

Historically, any truth (before it was accepted as fact) was at first denied, opposed and ridiculed. Eventually the evidence became so overwhelming that the truth became self evident and it gained acceptance.

We are all operating under the limitations of our own current understanding. Only when we allow ourselves to venture outside the confines of our ego, our deeply held positions of importance and our clinging to any particular belief system will we ever discover what the real deal is ...however painful that truth may be.

Below are some online videos pertaining to the subject of this poll. I respectfully invite all those who are seriously interested in knowing the truth about the World Trade Center disasters to watch them at their leisure.

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911 Videos

1 - "Unanswered Questions" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 1

2 - "Senator Mark Dayton Exposes Coverup" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 2

3 - "News [Propaganda] Reports" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 3

4 - "The Pentagon" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 4

5 - "AA Flight 77" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 5

6 - "Pentagon Scraps" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 6

7 - "Global Hawks - What really Hit the Pentagon"" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 7

8 - "Building 7" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 8a

8b - "Building 7 continued - Silverstein confesses" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 8b

9 - "The Towers" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 9

10 - "The Collapse" Painful Deceptions DVD Part 10


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Just quoting post 44 to have it on the current thread page.
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Old 01-25-2006, 03:50 PM   #643 (permalink)
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Mike, don't let common sense leave you entirely.
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Old 01-26-2006, 11:10 AM   #644 (permalink)
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I've read the first few pages of this thread and watched a couple of the clips. I have a couple of question for those more in the know.

What about the passengers in the flight that allegedly crashed into the Pentagon?

If there was no plane , was there a fake passenger list?

Don't you think someone would have noticed that there were no family members mourning the loss of those passengers?

If it wasn't a plane that crashed into the Pentagon, shouldn't there be a missing airliner?

If this info is so widely available to the public why isn't there an uprising?

I'm not being skeptical, I just have some unanswered questions. Thanks.
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Old 01-26-2006, 11:43 AM   #645 (permalink)
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A lot of those questions indeed need investigation, but because of the attitude of the US government they are not investigating any of this now are they?

Doesn't THAT make you ask more questions?
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Ferre, I got a question for you.

After all this time has passed, what do you think? Do you believe that the CIA did it?
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Old 01-26-2006, 11:54 AM   #647 (permalink)
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Ferre, I got a question for you.

After all this time has passed, what do you think? Do you believe that the CIA did it?

No I do not think that the CIA did it. I do think that certain people within the CIA have been assisting, as well as certain people in the Mossad and certain people high up in the hightec industrial and banking world.
There is enough circomstantual evidence and even names brought up during the past few years to justfy an investigation in these matters and I can only think of one reason why this isn't going on yet.
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Okay.

I disagree, but that's been said.
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Well, one thing is certain, either the buildings were very poorly constructed from sub-standard materials or there was intent to take them down. Fire isn't an adequate explanation. It doesn't stand up to even the most casual scrutiny.
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Old 01-26-2006, 01:43 PM   #650 (permalink)
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Well, one thing is certain, either the buildings were very poorly constructed from sub-standard materials or there was intent to take them down. Fire isn't an adequate explanation. It doesn't stand up to even the most casual scrutiny.
Specially not for building 7, how to explain building 7 dropping like a card house.
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Maybe it was a well-disguised house of cards? You know, the CIA can make a tank look like a pickup, why can't they make a pack of playing cards look like a skyscraper?

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Ferre,

Since you seemed to like Notepad I have unbanned the turd.

Reason I say he's a turd is because he posted some crap about v7n in Alexa review, and I called him up, and he it was entirely funny.

Me: What the hell with you posting BS crap review on Alexa?

John Barremore: What? How can you tell it was me?

Me: John, are you telling me that you didn't post a BS review of v7n on on Alexa?

John Barremore: Does it have my name on it?

Me: John, did you or did you not post a crap review?

John Barremore: Why would you think it was me?

Me: John, did you or did you not post a crap review?

John Barremore: Well, I don't have Alexa in front of...

Me: John, did you or did you not post a crap review?

John Barremore: Did you call me to accuse me of ...

Me: John, are you uncapable of straight talk? This is a simple yes or no question.


Anyway, the guy refused to give me a straight answer the entire time. I mean, if you want to bash v7n on Alexa, go ahead and do so, and tell me to fuc* off when I call you on it. Wuss.
John Scott, not only are you unscrupulous to post my name in this forum, defaming my good name, you are also a liar. You have strayed off-topic into an area which I will not tolerate.

I have saved this forum post for which I will copy to my attorney and begin legal proceedings against you and your agents for damages incurred.


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John Scott, not only are you unscrupulous to post my name in this forum, defaming my good name, you are also a liar. You have strayed off-topic into an area which I will not tolerate.

I have saved this forum post for which I will copy to my attorney and begin legal proceedings against you and your agents for damages incurred.


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Why, Notepad? Why wouldn't you answer? Is the Alexa thing true?

I don't really care if it's true or not, TBH, I just think you are getting too bent out of shape over it either way.

My personal preference would be confrontation, not threat. But that's me, I like to confront my accuser to get at the truth. Screw revenge, the truth is what should be important, shouldn't it not?



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Damnit I really wish I hadnt of seen this thread. Damn conspiracy theorists.
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