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View Poll Results: What caused the WTC buildings to fall?
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faulty, poor grade construction steel
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2 |
1.69% |
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jet airliners crashing into the towers
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subsequent fires weakening the structures
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a combination of airliners crashing & the fires
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a bomb or missile attached to the plane(s)
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combination of all of the above
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angry UFO alien death ray beam
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13.56% |
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strategically placed demolition charges
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04-26-2006, 10:26 AM
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Trapper, I can't find mention of anybody saying that they did not find three red & green striped aliens in the WTC rubble, but does that mean there were three red & green striped aliens?
If there was molten steel, I am sure there is a scientific reason for it that does not involve the CIA.
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04-26-2006, 10:29 AM
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I actually agree with John this time. I don't really think that the US planned an attack on itself.
Sure there were probably cover ups and so on, but that's to be expected - this is the good ol' US of A afterall.
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04-26-2006, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnScott
Trapper, I can't find mention of anybody saying that they did not find three red & green striped aliens in the WTC rubble, but does that mean there were three red & green striped aliens?
If there was molten steel, I am sure there is a scientific reason for it that does not involve the CIA.
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The problem there, John, is there is no one saying that there was red & green striped aliens in the rubble. And if there is a scientific explanation, I have yet to find it. I'm not jumping ship here, I just find the questions very intriguing.
The more I look the more I find more questions. For instance,
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WTC-7 was unharmed by an airplane and had only minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors of this 47-story steel building yet it collapsed in less than 10 seconds.
WTC-5 and WTC-6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams
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Still looking. 
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04-26-2006, 10:44 AM
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Trapper, I an saying that the WTC7 was taken down by sexually frustrated aliens. Prove me wrong.
Strange isn't it? If they want to challenge the facts as they are known, I think the conspiracy theorists need to provide the proof, not just unsubstantiated claims.
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04-26-2006, 11:03 AM
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I couldn't find one thing about sexually frustrated aliens, YET! Still looking. I did find this:
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The National Institute of Standards and Technology has stated unequivocally, “NIST has seen so evidence that the collapse of WTC 7 was caused by bombs, missiles, or controlled demolition,” in its Collapse of WTC 7 report (p. 6). NIST’s working hypothesis for the collapse of WTC 7 is that it was caused by the collapse of a critical column due to “fire and/or debris induced structural damage.” There was substantial damage to WTC 7 when the nearby WTC 1 tower collapsed and fires began shortly afterwards. Also, WTC 7 was a very unusual building because it was built over an existing Con-Edison power generation substation, which contained two large 6,000 gallon fuel tanks for the emergency generation of power. The fuel from these tanks could have contributed to the intense heat that apparently weakened the supporting columns in WTC 7.
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Again, I am not a conspiracy theorist but I would like to hear someone say this is the reason why molten steel was found, or there is no eveidence of molten steel being found. You say the burden of proof should be placed on the CT's. But what I am saying is that there is reams and reams of documentation of why they fell and why they fell straight down and (as I quoted above) why the WTC7 fell (true or not). Still haven't found the molten steel debunked or explained... but I will.
Move along, nothing to see here. 
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04-26-2006, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper
The last question is why was melted steel found in the underground levels of the rubble?
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The pools of molten steel that were found in the basement glowed red hot for a month after. The pools came from the many C4 type explosive charges that are used in controlled demolitions. C4 and similar type explosives burn hot enough to instantly liquify steel.
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05-18-2006, 01:59 AM
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Nice gray flash. So according to the pentagon this 'proves' that it's is a commercial passengers plane that hit it?
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05-20-2006, 12:36 AM
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05-20-2006, 12:45 AM
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Wasn't there a news article on ceefax in the UK when the event happened that mentioned that one of the planes was shot out of the sky and also an interview with someone then within 30mins of being published, it was pulled down?
I know a few people that saw it and thought they were going mad as when they looked later, it was gone.
To be honest, I can't say 100% what fully happened that day but there is so much info being held back that they themselves are causing people to
react like this.
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06-28-2006, 03:29 AM
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Last edited by Ferre : 06-28-2006 at 04:02 AM.
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06-30-2006, 12:15 AM
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Good find Ferre. This is also interesting:
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Both BYU and Prof. Jones have been offered additional grants if he would "change the direction" of his research. In addition, there have been threats made by an individual who "is taking action" to stop Steven Jones' research, specifically his experiment with thermites (aluminothermics), on the grounds his work may be helpful to "terrorists". Jones notes that much more detailed information on both thermite and thermate is readily available on the internet.
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06-30-2006, 04:48 AM
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When it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck. Guess what it is.
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06-30-2006, 05:28 AM
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aka Colleen
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It's one big f**king duck!
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07-01-2006, 08:54 AM
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I heard there was a roach problem in the buildings and it was just an accident by some overzealous exterminators.
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07-01-2006, 08:58 AM
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You can make jokes about it Zap, but it's proven that the buildings have been detonated using thermate.
This leaves the question; Who did it, and why.
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07-01-2006, 09:05 AM
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