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View Poll Results: What caused the WTC buildings to fall?
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faulty, poor grade construction steel
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2 |
1.69% |
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jet airliners crashing into the towers
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23 |
19.49% |
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subsequent fires weakening the structures
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14 |
11.86% |
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a combination of airliners crashing & the fires
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27 |
22.88% |
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a bomb or missile attached to the plane(s)
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3.39% |
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combination of all of the above
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3 |
2.54% |
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angry UFO alien death ray beam
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16 |
13.56% |
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strategically placed demolition charges
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29 |
24.58% |
07-14-2006, 08:52 PM
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Either in the end Ferre will show his true inteligence and say this conspiracy stuff is all wrong or, like I've said in the past, he'll take it to the grave.
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07-14-2006, 11:44 PM
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I can't believe my eyes! People here actually believe strategically placed demolition charges were more responsible than two airliners crashing in to the buildings?!
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07-15-2006, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JamieJelly
I can't believe my eyes! People here actually believe strategically placed demolition charges were more responsible than two airliners crashing in to the buildings?!
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He is saying that it is a combination of the two, basically a setup.
I can understand governments doing some ridiculous stuff as they have caused wars in the past and though I personally think that they were not involved, I can't honestly say hand-on-heart that they weren't.
It was an interesting video btw dude.
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07-15-2006, 06:56 PM
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Saddam Hussein was a Terrorist - Not involved in 9/11 but certainly a threat to his neighboring countries, and by virtue of that threat, he was a threat to you, your family, I and our country in the future... Don't kid yourself, his past, current and future actions and policies had and would have done nothing to help in this war on terror that was forced upon us as of 9/11.
FACT - He DID pay each Palestinian family of any suicide bomber that killed innocent civilians in Israel $25,000 for their relatives sacrifice by their action of becoming "homicide bomber". This money was paid to the Martyr's Brigade through Arafat to be "awarded" to the surviving family member of "the martyr"...
The world is and will be a better place without such leaders and governments as his.
There are other "Leaders" and Governments that need to choose peace over the creation of Atomic weapons, Ethnic Cleansing, Genocide or the Subjugation of their fellow human beings via a government by force.
An argument could certainly be made the history of the United States includes many of the previously listed "crimes" and actions that are detrimental to the future stability of the world. I would say to those people, that the United States has turned into a much better country and government
This is not a political problem, this is a war, make no mistake of it. The radical Muslim Fundamentalists and Terrorist factions are not in it to change our government, or change or policies, or get us to go quietly in to the night and not bother them. They have said in speeches, videos and in their teachings in the Madrasas' that their "holy" mission is to turn the world to Islam and have all of humanity ruled by the "Laws of God, not the laws of man".
Their "Laws of God" include punishments such as; Stoning to death, Revenge Murder, Public Executions, Subjugation of Women, Chopping off of body parts for certain crimes, Floggings and more. All women must wear Burka's, No Music, No entertainment except that entertainment that is religious in nature and deemed to be acceptable in the Koran.
Another great Quote from a prominent Muslim Fundamentalist Cleric, this is from his interpretation of the Koran...
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"Those that do not choose Islam shall be slaughtered."
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The last time we've heard talk like this was during the Muslim and Christian Crusades of the early centuries. Whether you want to believe it or not, those were barbaric times, where a human life had very little value.
The extremists will attack again, and not just against our Armed Forces, but against more innocent civilians. (Remember Bali, Spain, England, Egypt and many others).
In a war, there are only winners and losers, which side do you want to win???
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Interesting that people choose to believe that the WTC buildings were brought down by controlled demolition, when there is so much evidence to the contrary.
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07-16-2006, 03:49 PM
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Wow....
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07-16-2006, 03:59 PM
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All of them except the last four. The fourth itself is ridiculous, especcially the part about the 'missile', it's not a missile if it's on board a plane that's smashed into a building. 
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07-21-2006, 06:53 AM
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George Bush destroyed our towers. The Fascist greedy pig that he is.. The republican party are a bunch of freaks and dont know shit.. Id say the only smart republican of American History would be Teddy Roosevelt, and even he himself formed his own party afterwards.
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07-21-2006, 06:58 AM
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not to offend anyone, and you may wish me to hell (if that exists) but the godly are what makes conflict arise. Theres no problem in what you believe but if you combine selfishness with beliefs than you have a problem.
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07-21-2006, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AntNE00
George Bush destroyed our towers. The Fascist greedy pig that he is.. The republican party are a bunch of freaks and dont know shit.. Id say the only smart republican of American History would be Teddy Roosevelt, and even he himself formed his own party afterwards.
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Abe Lincoln was a great Republican, as was Reagan. 
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07-21-2006, 07:03 AM
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Reagan looked Einstein-ish compared to Bush.
But Reagan also proved that even people without a brain can become US presidents, the dude personalized the ultimate American dream.
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07-21-2006, 07:11 AM
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yea but abe lincoln was also whig party
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07-21-2006, 07:29 AM
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Shouldn't use tragic events to bash Bush. Facts only please.
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07-21-2006, 07:43 AM
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And what are your facts? because these are facts. First off, the evidence that has been released is pretty substantial, But whats behind it that the government keeps a secret is what the problem is as well as terrorism. Noone knows anything about anything that the government screws up. Its all hush hush and thats the way it will always be. So we just sit back, relax, and let the gov't "protect" us from terrorism right?? We must be in good hands. Dont think so.
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07-21-2006, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AntNE00
And what are your facts? because these are facts. First off, the evidence that has been released is pretty substantial, But whats behind it that the government keeps a secret is what the problem is as well as terrorism. Noone knows anything about anything that the government screws up. Its all hush hush and thats the way it will always be. So we just sit back, relax, and let the gov't "protect" us from terrorism right?? We must be in good hands. Dont think so.
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Yeah, I heard Bush was a good airline pilot and often took demolition classes in college 
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07-21-2006, 10:21 AM
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LOL
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07-21-2006, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Yeah, I heard Bush was a good airline pilot and often took demolition classes in college 
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i take it your a republican, but what i dont understand is why so many people think that guy is soo innocent
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07-21-2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AntNE00
i take it your a republican, but what i dont understand is why so many people think that guy is soo innocent
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I am an optimist.
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07-22-2006, 02:47 AM
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And what are your facts?
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I don't see any facts. If they were facts, then where is the proof? I've been reading hundreds of conspiracy theories, all of which wind up in the trash eventually.
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07-22-2006, 10:56 AM
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At the end of the day, this is what destroyed WTC:

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07-22-2006, 12:05 PM
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