What Destroyed The World Trade Centers? - Page 44

zcoder · 03-07-2007, 04:04 PM

WHAT?? what does this mean?

I sat watching it live, and in my mined I thought about a collapse.
so this means I was in on it too?

I myself think it is human nature to think of the worse, when faced with
a disaster. Alot of what if's go through your mind at the speed of light.

And if I was weak minded, I could later say, I was in on it, or I could start
jumping up and down and say, I have ESP.

The whole idea of the 9/11 attack being staged, goes back to Anti-American
HATE, a nation that freely feeds it's population a daily menu of anti-american
hate, which in turn turns that nation into a none-civilized nation.
generations being turned into a nation of people haters.

The time is comming where all these nations will take up arms against america
and america will have no choice but to inflict the worst damage on those
un-civilized nations.

It's a waste of life, all in the sake of HATE, But a true lesson in history for
man to learn, just what propaganda can un-leash upon it's people.

You may not ever think that europe and america will ever enter into a war
against each other, but if your wise, and can see how much more louder
europe is pounding on the anti-american drum, you can see it comming.

I myself think it will happen, and in the end, all that is gained is a horrible
lesson to ALL of man kind, in regards to what we sell to our own people
in our own nation.

You would think that we all would learn this from todays events, and see
that the mid east has reached such a level, where radical groups which
have been feed ant-west diets, are now full of hate, and have reached
that point of casting war onto us.

Instead, I see it growing in nations who, at one time use to be a civilized
nations. the risk today is now high, that we as nations are creating a unsafe
world for future generations.

Zcoder....

Ferre · 03-07-2007, 05:03 PM

zcoder dude, you are over reacting like hell.

What we are talking about is to clear up numerous questions about one of the most important, and influential events in history of mankind.

I don't know if you have noticed, but untill this very day NO suspect has been arrested for this crime. No one.

- The question is not if this was a conspiracy, any plan compelled by more than one person made up to harm others is a conspiracy THAT is a fact of law (and language btw).

- The question is who was responcible and who have helped in any way to pull this off.

- This is untill this very day not clear at all, and the official reports only open more questions.

The world outside the USA does not per se hate America, what people around the world do hate is to be lied to, specially about issues that influence their daily lives.

I think that every person in the world wants the criminals who did this before a court but even a child knows that investigations into criminal acts should be done with care, and all questions answered.

that's all that's needed, a serious investigation, and being that there is a huge amount of circomstantial evidence that the possibility exists that people within the US government can be involved in one way or the other, there should be an independent investigation.

After all, when the government really wants to clear it up and has nothing to hide, they can only win the trust back again, the trust they now have completely lost.

zcoder, this has nothing to do with 'us and them' mentality, but everything with seeking justice for crimes that have influenced, and still influence, about every person on earth's daily life.

zcoder · 03-07-2007, 05:36 PM

independent investigation? to find the criminals?
when Binladen admitted to it, but he never thought the
towers would really fall?

But no matter how you twist it, you have already convicted members of
the US goverment, all without true facts.

And I also susspect that your verdict came from your anti-american feelings.

Now look, I am going to level with you. becouse I have been to europe many
times, and one thing I can say about europe that I rearly see in american
media is a anti-american slant on the news, and even shows who's theme
is about amerca and how bad they are.

I have watched it, and seen this on almost every network in europe, but
I hardly see anything like that on american shows, sure there are times
you hear something bad about europe, on the news or such, but not like you
see it in europe, everyday, all day long. "americans are in love with war"
all kinds of speacials on it and shows, and then a slant of anti-american news
to boot.

You don't find it that heavy over here about europe, people here would not
put up with it. becouse it's not credible, it's not civilized.

visit the US, for a few years, watch our news, see our shows, pin a note
on the calander each time you hear something bad about europe, then go
back home, with your calander, and start a new one, and pin a note on
the calander for each time you hear anti-american stuff on your TV's

Then come back here, and tell me that you are not being feed hate.
while the americans don't hate you, and you hardly see forums with
anti-europe crap on it, you still some how hate those who never hardly
speak ill of you.

You must admit, compare the hate in an american for any nation to what
comes out of europe, you would think europe was the mid east, yet europe
thinks that it is still a civilized nation.

So you keep on hating those who don't hate you, and you will only degrade
yourself.

Zcoder....

Ferre · 03-07-2007, 05:43 PM

Dude, seek help.

zcoder · 03-07-2007, 06:05 PM

You say that becouse your lost for words., couse you know that
what I said about the way europe is, on the media, is true.

You can't even site, where I am flawed on my statements.
Your countrys are just becoming un-civilized.

Better yet.
go to your choice of search engine, google up ANTI
then count how many forums have anti-american on them.
the take the domain name and run it through a program that will
show you the IP's location, it will be in europe.

Also try to google other words like politics, and BUSH
count the american made forums VS european made forums

and my case and proof will rest in your results.

Zcoder....

**G10** · 03-07-2007, 06:22 PM

I live in the UK and don't hate the US but I am interested in knowing Why you think that so many countries print what you call 'anti-american' news.

zcoder · 03-07-2007, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G10

I live in the UK and don't hate the US but I am interested in knowing Why you think that so many countries print what you call 'anti-american' news.

becouse it's all over the net. everyone I know has told me they have run
into an anti-american or bush bashing forum more then 8 times a week.

And I have already said that I have been to europe many times. just this
month I was there, I have only to turn on the TV or buy a news papper
and I am guaranteed to find anti-american something in it.

and this is everyday, so I do know first hand, and it's not just becouse
I came to town that day. LOL

Zcoder....

WorldwideTrading · 03-09-2007, 07:14 AM

I refuse to believe the world trade centre towers ever existed! This my friends is the true conspiracy...

littleFella · 03-09-2007, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcoder

And I have already said that I have been to europe many times. just this
month I was there, I have only to turn on the TV or buy a news papper
and I am guaranteed to find anti-american something in it.

utter bull!
Find me one anti-american "something" in today's edition of this European newspaper.

zcoder · 03-09-2007, 07:03 PM

Go take a trip there, have fun, see the sites, watch some TV, and by a
papper or two, then we can debate this issue more.

Sit in your chair at home, and use the internet as your tool to get to
know the world around you is very foolish, becouse you have to rely
on what is shown to you.

Zcoder....

littleFella · 03-09-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcoder

Go take a trip there, have fun, see the sites, watch some TV, and by a
papper or two, then we can debate this issue more.

zcoder, I come from Europe. Born, raised and educated mostly there. I actually do read European newspapers. Not to mention that I speak more than just my native language.

Btw. what is yours?

And as for trips... after a couple dozen countries I visited and Canada being the 4th country I live in I just gotta settle down sometime, eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcoder

Sit in your chair at home, and use the internet as your tool to get to
know the world around you is very foolish, becouse you have to rely
on what is shown to you.

Zcoder....

That particular online newspaper is identical to the printed version. It's a daily so much easier (and cheaper) to read it online than to have it flown every morning to my door step.

So... did you manage to find an anti-american "something" in that newspaper I linked you to?

zcoder · 03-09-2007, 11:26 PM

littleFella,
My languages go far more then just 2 or 3, I have 2 PHD's with one of them
being in the feild of linguistics and the study of hebrew translations into
many other languages.

Also I am french, and sence I was 17 I have traveled the world constantly
and still do, becouse of my occupation.

what you should do that is more contructive is to find all major events in the
past few years, and recent, that involve america, then tell me.

And then their is the shows, that you will just have see for yourself.
I am sure in this area the nearest CABLE company can pump you european
broadcast stations right to your own home.

Zcoder....

**Cricket** · 03-09-2007, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcoder

littleFella,
My languages go far more then just 2 or 3, I have 2 PHD's with one of them
being in the feild of linguistics and the study of hebrew translations into
many other languages.

I am confused how you learned more than 2 or 3 languages since December...

Quote:

What, you just want someone to speak any language?
no programming? this must be spam. LOL
Oh, well, I speak english thats it.

Zcoder....
http://forums.devshed.com/showthread...49#post1694649

zcoder · 03-09-2007, 11:56 PM

Comprenez-vous ce que veux dire je pour dire ?
Verstehst du, was ich bedeute, zu sagen?
Capite che cosa significo dire?
Entiendes lo que significo decir?

Zcoder....

zcoder · 03-10-2007, 12:00 AM

Cricket,
And on the internet of all places, you think that was me?

Zcoder....

**Cricket** · 03-10-2007, 12:02 AM

I didn't mean any disrespect. I was only wondering why you would tell one forum that you only speak one language, and tell another forum that you know more than 2 or 3.

zcoder · 03-10-2007, 12:09 AM

I myself have never heard of Dev Shed Forums.
nore would I need to go to a forum where the topic is programer for hire???

Nope, I think you can find lots of handles or screen names for almost every
one's handle out on the internet, that is not the same person.
infact, there is a project called Zcoder but I know nothing of it.

Zcoder....

**Cricket** · 03-10-2007, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcoder

Cricket,
And on the internet of all places, you think that was me?

Zcoder....

Well, let's see. The post I quoted uses the exact same method of signing your nickname. Strangely enough for someone with not one but two PhDs, you make the same spelling and grammar errors in other forums as you do in this one, but I guess it could certainly be just a big coincidence.

Heck, what do I know? I'm just a country girl.