What Destroyed The World Trade Centers?

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Originally Posted by cbolts

There has to be something people can do to change this. Its completely unfair. The capitolist system is great, but too much of the wealth is concentrated in the banks of a few individuals. The government is more focused on these individuals and their corperations and investments than the population as a whole.

I agree. The problem really stems from 'the controllers' (above the president), and something has got to be done before we escalate to the point of no return.

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Exactly, you would think there would be more backlash and conflict. But no, there is nothing, no one does anything.

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this "build in explosives" story reeks as another distortion to have people to look for ghosts instead of the truth.

Ferre, I consider all possibilities valid, and the notion of some sort of explosives built in to the construction is not too far fetched ...especially when you discover the source of the building materials, the architects and financiers involved.

...however, at the same time I agree with you that the 911 truth movement here in the U.S. can get tainted with too many wild, off-beat theories. I say stick to the facts ...namely, accumulate testimony, evidence and information proving the WTC buildings were destroyed by internal explosions.

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Originally Posted by gorillaboy

Ferre, it's only getting worse!

...It's a landmark book-burning and marks the beginning of the purge of anyone seen as being unpatriotic and politically incorrect.

The media is now policing the people. Citizens are even policing other citizens to an extent. This is exactly what our government wants. It's unebelieveable!

TRUE! TRUE! TRUE!
How absolutely correct you are. The gov is using 911 to turn citizen against citizen ...effectively dividing the nation. This is what Lincoln spoke about ...and almost exactly repeats the methodology used in Nazi Germany.

Wanta hear something else? ...the propaganda machine here in Texas is ALREADY brainwashing children in elementary schools with the recent introduction of history books which portray the gov's FALSE story about 911.

Anyone who speaks too loudly otherwise (as in, opposing the gov's "theory" and telling the truth) is being fired, discredited, ostracized, or "suicided."

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Originally Posted by Ferre

Question: How can, if nobody in a country knows anyone, no friends, no family, really nobody who voted for X, this same X can still turn out to be the winner of a presidential election?

Answer: Only in America.

I don't think so. There are plenty of corrupt governments and elections outside of the US of A.

It is very interesting to analyze the Bush rhetoric. It's a nice little lesson in BRAINWASHING! It's quite amazing.

Another funny thing is the black people that stand behind Bush at ALL of his public speaking events. Take notice next time. These guys have all of the bases covered.

If they really F. something up all they have to do is tell us what a success it was. They pretty much feed us the exact opposite of the truth and nobody questions them. And when I say nobody, I mean our TV news media. If it's not a big deal on TV, it's just NOT A BIG DEAL!

Its completely unfair. The capitolist system is great, but too much of the wealth is concentrated in the banks of a few individuals.

Has the wealth gap ever been larger?

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Originally Posted by cbolts

Exactly, you would think there would be more backlash and conflict. But no, there is nothing, no one does anything.

Well, no one yet anyway .. I heard that there is a possibility that some sort of significant action may be in the planning stages. I have no idea how this would work or what any repercussions might be.

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Originally Posted by cbolts

Exactly, you would think there would be more backlash and conflict. But no, there is nothing, no one does anything.

I think it's because everyone in the U.S. is still in denial that their government and the current administration could be so criminal and devious as to actually murder its citizens to promote an agenda ...when in reality they've done this for years, possibly since the inception of this country.

For what it's worth, more and more people are beginning to see the TV networks for what they really are ...as agents of misinformation and spin ...furthermore, huge sections of the population in the United States are migrating to the Internet for their news, abandoning the corporate rhetoric and repetitive lies constantly vomited on TV.



Here's a treat ...watch as Ann Coulter (of FOX) makes a fool of herself on Canadian television about whether or not Canada sent troops to Vietnam (hint: they didn't).

[cbolts]

who wants to make a site with me on this subject? forums and info. I just feel like I need to get the word out and help ppl see whats going on.

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Originally Posted by cbolts

who wants to make a site with me on this subject? forums and info. I just feel like I need to get the word out and help ppl see whats going on.

Just point people to http://www.indymedia.org and support them I guess is a good option, also one of the best sources of information is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheNeuschwabenlandTimes/ You'll receive about 400 emails/articles/month but you will be updated on everything that the government don't want you to know and that's a lot.

btw, I already have a forum with that kind of information, there is a lot to read here http://www.thc-ministry.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

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Originally Posted by cbolts

who wants to make a site with me on this subject? forums and info. I just feel like I need to get the word out and help ppl see whats going on.

That's a very good idea ...you would join the prestigious ranks of thousands ...concerned citizens and talented web devs alike attempting to do exactly the same thing ...bring truth to the people about 911.

A word of caution though ...911 is a very sensitive subject ...Americans were killed on that day and they're still being killed everyday in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. because of an administration's lies ...you have to be tactful, compassionate, yet resolute in your mission.



Too many well meaning individuals become ensnared, restricted by their ego and emotions ...proponents of the 911 truth movement too often get caught up in argumentative debate over who's right, who's wrong and who's perspective should be accepted over another.

This fragmentation and disparity between 911 researchers is the main problem and even worse, it discourages people coming to the movement for the first time seeking answers ...with so many in disagreement, how can someone new to all this begin to understand, or educate themselves about what really happened on 911.

We need solidarity towards a common goal ...perhaps a clearing house ...a hub ...a one-stop information watering hole for solid facts on 911.

I for one, like I do everyday in multiple ways, am willing to assist with such a project in whatever way I am able and as time permits me.

Bringing truth and awareness about 911 to the masses is key to political transformation and quite possibly, the only thing which might actually save the United States from financial collapse and its ultimate destruction by a handful of insane individuals.

Just as webmasters and Web developers assisted with Google's rise to dominance, collectively they are in a powerful position to build sites ...a powerful force to be reckoned with ...a force to expose the government's cover up of 911.

A massive web dev contribution to the 911 truth movement could prove instrumental to reaching a much wider audience.

Exposing the truth about 911 would solve a lot of issues.

See this article in particular: The Key to Political Transformation

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Originally Posted by cbolts

...feel like I need to get the word out and help ppl see whats going on.

I notice you haven't voted in this poll ...can you give a reason please?

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Originally Posted by notepad

radio interview w/ Victor Thorn & Lisa Guliani talking about important points concerning scientific highlights ...compelling insights into the facts surrounding 911.

Good interview.

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Yeah, and another point rarely mentioned, one that's NEVER mentioned in TV land, is the fact there were pools of molten steel found under the WTC Towers weeks and months after their collapse!

In the basements of the collapsed towers, where the 47 central support columns connected with the bedrock, hot spots of "literally molten steel" were discovered more than a month after the collapse.


A comparative pool of lava

These incredibly hot areas were found at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven [basement] levels.

C'mon now ...jet fuel, which is just kerosene, together with everyday office furnishings, paper and other stuff, CANNOT burn at temperatures high enough to melt and reduce solid steel construction beams & columns to liquid ...and retain such high temperatures for weeks afterward.

Construction steel has an extremely high melting point of about 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit. Independent investigators say kerosene-based jet fuel, paper, or the other combustibles normally found in the towers, cannot generate the heat required to melt steel, especially in an oxygen-poor environment like a deep basement.

This is impossible, they say, because the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbons like jet-fuel burning in air is 1,520 degrees F.

Because the WTC fires were fuel rich, as evidenced by the thick black smoke, it is argued that they did not reach the upper temperatures necessary to melt steel ...especially not high enough to leave pools of molten steel for weeks afterward.

Hint: only military explosives, or thermite, or a nuclear device can produce such heat.

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" According to reports by workmen, they recovered molten steel in the basements. This was key evidence that had been found at a crime scene; yet it was literally stolen by the FBI and shipped immediately to Japan where it was hurriedly reconstituted at a scrap metal plant; nonetheless, it was seen by hundreds of workmen who had extracted it from the basement ruins. Physicists, fire engineers, and metallurgists all over the country were salivating over the chance to examine this extraordinary molten steel. These groups of scientists are uniformly furious at the White House for destroying such valuable evidence. The 9/11 official investigation managed to ignore such minor details."

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Nice one Atom.

Give it time and I am sure what really happened will come out.

BTW - I haven't a clue as to what it is yet but I find it strange that important info is kept out of public / scientific viewing.

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Originally Posted by G10

Give it time and I am sure what really happened will come out.

Yes, I think so too.

Originally Posted by G10

BTW - I haven't a clue as to what it is yet but I find it strange that important info is kept out of public / scientific viewing.

I find it literally criminal.

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Originally Posted by Atom

" According to reports by workmen, they recovered molten steel in the basements. This was key evidence that had been found at a crime scene; yet it was literally stolen by the FBI and shipped immediately to Japan where it was hurriedly reconstituted at a scrap metal plant; nonetheless, it was seen by hundreds of workmen who had extracted it from the basement ruins. Physicists, fire engineers, and metallurgists all over the country were salivating over the chance to examine this extraordinary molten steel. These groups of scientists are uniformly furious at the White House for destroying such valuable evidence. The 9/11 official investigation managed to ignore such minor details."

What you are describing is a crime within a crime. It is illegal by all standards of law enforcement to tamper with evidence at a crime scene.

In fact, the post 911 cleanup crews were given priority clearance OVER investigators to gather up all the steel and debris and get rid of it immediately ...subsequently selling and shipping the steel (which no doubt carried signatures of explosives) to overseas destinations.