Top 10 signs the USA is becomming a police state

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Originally Posted by Nick

I didn't see this comment at first. I am pretty offended by it. ...

Well you shouldn't be, it's a simple observation by one person.


I'm not sure that it means anything really. Could I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Dustin07

... Age allows a person to experience more, but I'm not convinced it makes them wiser.

It does. Even if just in general and only a little.

Originally Posted by Dustin07

America's a pretty sweet place to be.

So far, I can say the same. Several even within the patriot movement don't think that we are in a police state.






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Originally Posted by Nick

Exactly, looking at the web address raises some flags too....

Nick. It's just a domain name. What does it have to do with anything?

Your comment doesn't show you in the best light.

You commented on peacewomen.org. So, if I were to remove all content from that website and put up a blank white page, is that still biased? I mean, it would still be peacewomen.org, right? If I replace the white page with a black page, did the website just become biased in the opposite direction? And, how would you interpret the bias of qwerty.com?

The content of the website is what shows bias, not a domain name alone. You can put anything on a domain, topically related or not.

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On the topic of wisdom, I think it's difficult to compare the wisdom of one against another.

Some people, for example, can watch someone else learn a life lesson (eg. you can't change other people - change must come from within) and learn that lesson themselves, without ever having to learn it "the hard way" (by experiencing it, first hand).

Some people can't. They MUST learn everything "the hard way".

And, there are so many of these lessons to learn throughout life, so it is difficult to compare one individual to another in anything other than a general sense.

Hopefully, each of us goes through life and gains wisdom as we do, making a single individual wiser as they get older.

[cimmeron]

that's what I was trying to say by how you use your wisdom but I didn't say it well. I was trying to say that like zap said, some people never learn, period. Old, young, whatever, they just will never totally learn from things, continue to make the same mistakes over and over...in a way, it's natural. it's part of what makes us human....the people who can take their wisdom and add empathy, some intelligence, some ability to learn from past mistakes...those are the truly wise people.

[cimmeron]

Originally Posted by Ferre

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=9817

I'm going to say again that the US is not perfect; many things that are going on in the government at this time should be raising red flags, however, I'm sorry but I cannot accept this as any kind of valid source of information. The 'facts' themselves are littered with this person's interpretation..and where is the proof? the research? Simply because this person writes something down on this web site, I'm supposed to believe that it is so?

Before anyone freaks out, I'm not saying that it ISN'T so...I'm saying that this is not reporting of facts - this is her interpretation of one item - this is not giving me the facts and allowing me to interpret them. She is force feeding me her opinion on something she believes in. She is doing all the interpretting for me because apparently, I'm too dense to get it myself. Where are the pictures, documents, some sort of real proof to back up this story. I didn't see anything and if there is, please point it out to me because I would love to see it. But in the absense of hard truth, quantitative proof, I cannot believe this over anything else that I'm being force fed either by the right or the left.

She is absolutely allowed her option; I am not saying she is not...but expecting me to believe it without any type of facts to back it up is ridiculous.

[Ohiosweetheart]

Originally Posted by Ferre

It's funny but I just noticed that on our forums the pro bush people are usually young kids who know little about life, as soon as people have a little knowledge of history and real life you find less sympathy for Bush.

I'm hardly a young kid and I know quite alot about life and quite a bit of history, tyvm

Originally Posted by Trapper

I don't know ages but I have realised that the majority of Bush supporters are the ones that hurl childish insults and back their side up with "oh, come on" or "smoke another" or "gimmie a break" . Intelligent debate I must say.

I think that goes for all people, not just Bush supporters.

I find that all this mud-slinging about Bush-supporters is what is lacking intelligence. IMO it's incredibly childish that people can't have a political debate without resorting to name-calling, personal attacks, demeaning comments and snide/sarcastic remarks.

[Ohiosweetheart]

Originally Posted by Brian

Every side does it, it's not just one. Just another reason why internet debates are worthless.

I couldn't agree more. They are a waste of time, when adults can't act like adults, rather than stoop to childhood name-calling.

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Originally Posted by Ohiosweetheart

I couldn't agree more. They are a waste of time, when adults can't act like adults, rather than stoop to childhood name-calling.

Idiot - Just pulling your leg babe - I thought my comment was an ideal reply to yours

BTW - I was sold at the idea of Ferre smokin' one up and singing Coombaya and was packing my bags to join him

[Ferre]

Everybody's gotta learn sometime...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...67008400743688

After you have seen this video, tell me again that the US government doesn't smell fishy.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

Everybody's gotta learn sometime...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...67008400743688

After you have seen this video, tell me again that the US government doesn't smell fishy.

Ferre, I love you man, but that video is bullcrap. Only a moron could make that.

It's nothing more than innuendo and misrepresentation of facts and wholesale lies.

[Buskerdoo]

Originally Posted by Ferre

Our dear member BamaStangGuy has a history of insulting people who don't agree with him, he actually is a fine example of how the US government is dealing with dissents too. No diplomacy, but "if you're not with us, you are against us." (and you will suffer the consequenses.)

Ferre, you crack me up. You are one to talk about other people insulting people. You do it all the time. Prime example:

Originally Posted by Ferre

It doesn't matter to the mindless bushbot cheerleaders. dubyah doesn't make mistakes according to the lobotomites. He's a "cowboy". "Cowboys" do not make mistakes.

That was directed at me. I am very well educated, have been in business for large and small corporation for many many years. I've studied economics, history, etc. I was raised by a war veteran who risked his life for countries like yours. And yes, he was conservative. I give more money to charity in a year than (statistically) most people give in a life time. I am not a "mindless lobotomite."

I do not call you a mindless pothead for I think at times you carry a interesting argument. I don't agree with you, but at least you make it interesting.

If everyone here would try and just present and defend their argument without acting like first graders, it would be much more enjoyable. Perhaps at that time I'd engage more often.

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Originally Posted by JohnScott

Ferre, I love you man, but that video is bullcrap. Only a moron could make that.

It's nothing more than innuendo and misrepresentation of facts and wholesale lies.

*scores one for JS* absolutely true

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Originally Posted by Zap

On the topic of wisdom, I think it's difficult to compare the wisdom of one against another. ...

Why, has someone done that in this thread? (I see it's your opening sentence)

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Originally Posted by cimmeron

that's what I was trying to say by how you use your wisdom but I didn't say it well. ...

I thought that you did say it well.