How to steal the next election using the Diebold AccuVote-TS voting machine or others

Ferre · 09-17-2006, 09:18 AM

Prepare yourself for another rigged election guys...

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publ...cle_1206.shtml

Julie · 09-17-2006, 10:17 AM

Oh yea. In my county in Ohio...and I'm sure in most others now...we have Diebold electronic voting machines. And we don't get a print out or anything. Diebold is EVIL.

Ferre · 09-17-2006, 10:20 AM

They (Diebold) are in the pocket of the people who want the republicans to win and that has been proven without doubt.

See this post:
http://www.v7n.com/forums/politics/3...ony-video.html

America has the best politics money can buy.

Buskerdoo · 09-17-2006, 10:22 AM

Yada Yada.

What will people say is the reason when Democrats win?

Julie · 09-17-2006, 10:26 AM

There was an investigation in Ohio that proved that the election was tampered with. I can't speak for other states, but I know it happened here. They just threw out bucketloads of votes, and in some areas where people were voting for the Dem, it was actually counted for the Republican. Explain that.

Oh yea, and in some areas they wouldn't let people vote. They told people to go to the wrong polling locations as well. And if you went to the wrong location, you might be able to do a provisional ballot (if they were nice enough), but there's no guarantee it would even be counted.

I work at a library which also happens to be a polling location. I saw the chaos first hand.

Ferre · 09-17-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Buskerdoo

Yada Yada.

What will people say is the reason when Democrats win?

Yada yada, watch that video dude and read about those machines without paper trail.

What's wrong with a system that is fraude proof anyway, *some* people seem to like it that those elections can be rigged.

Buskerdoo, wouldn't you be in favor of a system that can be checked? (whoever wins btw, both US parties suck big time and are corrupted to the bone so at the end the people always loose anyway.

littleFella · 09-17-2006, 10:33 AM

Voting machine software should be open source, like it is in Australia.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/11...oting_debacle/

Buskerdoo · 09-17-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferre

Buskerdoo, wouldn't you be in favor of a system that can be checked? (whoever wins btw, both US parties suck big time and are corrupted to the bone so at the end the people always loose anyway.

Ofcourse. But, looking through history, and at most nations, there has always been rumors of and occasionally proof of fraud...no matter what the system is.

Buskerdoo · 09-17-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Julie

There was an investigation in Ohio that proved that the election was tampered with. I can't speak for other states, but I know it happened here. They just threw out bucketloads of votes, and in some areas where people were voting for the Dem, it was actually counted for the Republican. Explain that.

Same kind of thing happened in Alabama (I think), just the opposite way...??? Go figure.

I've also heard of bus loads of Democrats being bused in to vote in the wrong area. I've also seen proof of multiple votes (hundreds) by the same people. Just happened to be Democrates.

I'm not picking on any onoe party, just showing it goes both ways.

I guess the system is broken...and, I don't have a good fix.

Ferre · 09-17-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buskerdoo

Same kind of thing happened in Alabama (I think), just the opposite way...??? Go figure.

the problem with politics in America is that both dems and reps are totally corrupted and OWNED by the same corporates.

The past 30 years I have seen a flip-flop between the dems and reps down there. People vote for one party in the hope they'll do a better job than the other one and after a few years of being ruled by the criminally insane from one party they vote the other party in, hoping that they will get a different policy, which is not the case so after a couple of years they vote the other party in again.

This, in my view, is because of a total lack of understanding that both parties have exactly the same agenda, American people are blinded by minor differences in the election programs from those parties and falsely believe that being ruled by either one of them would make a diffence in their daily life.

Fact is that the past 30 years both parties have been working on the same agenda, if the American public really want a change they will have to realize that they are conned into believing that only the dems or reps are capable of managing their interests.

What America needs is a democratical system of check and balance and opposition in their system. As long as they don't figure that out they'll loose more and more of the little freedom they have left.

Einstein once made a remark about how stupid it is to do the same thing over and over again while expecting different results. That sums the American situation up for me.

Buskerdoo · 09-17-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferre

the problem with politics in America is that both dems and reps are totally corrupted and OWNED by the same corporates.

I think the same of every country. It is not limited to the USA. Or, better put, there is corruption everywhere. I don't personally think it comes from corporations here as much as others think. It comes from the minority with a lot of pull and/or money.

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Originally Posted by Ferre

What America needs is a democratical system of check and balance and opposition in their system. As long as they don't figure that out they'll loose more and more of the little freedom they have left.

I know you don't agree but I still think we have the best system in the world.

And, never forget, leaders of counties are elected (if in a democratic system) to protect the interests of their country...not other countries.

Ferre · 09-17-2006, 04:09 PM

Buskerdoo bro, you should do some travelling in European countries like Holland, Sweden, Denmark etc. before you claim that you have the best political system in the world. All you have is the best system money can buy.

From where we look at the American system it's a poor joke, the sad thing is that they have so many weapons and that they are so frikkin dangerous. America is NOT respected at all in my parts of the woods, it is feared and for a good reason. More and more it's looking like nazi Germany just before the war.

Buskerdoo · 09-17-2006, 04:48 PM

Bro,

Been to those places. Although I liked them, I don't want to live there.

You are looking at our country through someone elses eyes. Come live here and see you are misinformed.

I don't know that our leaders are looking to be liked. That is not what a good leader does. They are looking to protect the people they represent.

Buskerdoo · 09-17-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Buskerdoo

I don't know that our leaders are looking to be liked. That is not what a good leader does. They are looking to protect the people they represent.

HaHa, I read what I wrote and realized they do care about being liked by the people that vote for them...that's how they get there.

You know, politics doesn't change from the same popularity contests that happen in high school. The popular get the votes. They are not always, or hardly ever, the most qualified.

Ferre · 09-24-2006, 04:33 AM

Read this here: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. -- Will The Next Election Be Hacked?

Bye bye democracy, welcome dictatorship.

Buskerdoo · 09-24-2006, 08:30 AM

Writen by a guy who's family has expertise in illegal activity and buying votes.