Abortion - Page 10

chrysostom · 11-09-2006, 07:34 AM

I am pro-life and am opposed to abortion.

joecacia · 11-09-2006, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by IslaScotts

100% for it. I have had two abortions.

Don't get me wrong here really, but I need to ask why if possible you had 2 abortion, thinking about it for me, it is so scary and really sad. Did you ever saw an abortion video? Did they tell you before how they took out the baby? Oh my, this is just

I am not judging you really, but why?

Julie · 11-09-2006, 07:45 AM

I still can't believe that we have people in here denying that the baby is HUMAN. What else could it be? Is it of the canine species? Geez.

I'm in awe of the stupidity.

Jason · 11-09-2006, 08:15 AM

My mum has just got her 5yr clearance and I have the miracle of an adorable little sister.

intruth · 11-09-2006, 08:26 AM

Due to the fact I believe life begins at conception I have to say not for Abortion... ( If i plant a seed in a clear glass jar and you can see the roots growing but the plant has never reach the air above the soil,,,) Is there life?

They just passed stemcell research here in Mo. Now we will see places opening with descised name something Like SCR Humanity Relief Center... Where they will be paying women to have abortion and for there unborn child. This will cause many women to create life within them selves 2 to 5 times a year for the sole purpose of Abortion for profit.. Wow talk about blood money.

**kristeejo** · 11-09-2006, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian

Ah yes.. christy, my absolute favorite for levelheaded discussions

Up until the 13th (not including the 13th or 14th) would of course be the first trimester. The early structural development occurs in this stage.

After that would of course be the second trimester, when the embryo is now a fetus. Although not quite developed to be viable in form, it is recognized as human in form. Then of course the third trimester which leads to pregnancy.

Wow Bri. College has done wonders for that attitude of yours. I barely recognize you anymore.

Sometimes "listening" is as helpful as "researching." Take another look at the first trimester photo. It sure looks "recognizable" as a human form to me.

The third trimester LEADS to pregnancy? I think you should go research again.

How's that for level headed?

John Scott · 11-09-2006, 08:28 AM

I'm proud of you Christy. An entire post without any snide remarks directed at me.

Atom · 11-09-2006, 08:30 AM

intruth · 11-09-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Julie

I still can't believe that we have people in here denying that the baby is HUMAN. What else could it be? Is it of the canine species? Geez.

I'm in awe of the stupidity.

So I'll ask again. ( If I plant a seed in a clear glass jar and you can see the roots growing but the plant has never reach the air above the soil,,,) Is there life there?

Julie · 11-09-2006, 08:39 AM

Of course there is. But I'm not the one you need to be asking.

**kristeejo** · 11-09-2006, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WillL

then why if I crash a car and kill a young fetus it's not considered murder?

Again, Scott Peterson was charged with TWO counts of murder. One for killing his wife, Lacey and the other for killing his unborn son.

**kristeejo** · 11-09-2006, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

I'm proud of you Christy. An entire post without any snide remarks directed at me.

For ONCE, we agree on something. The shame!

intruth · 11-09-2006, 08:51 AM

I was asking everyone Julie @ the same time aplauding your post

Julie · 11-09-2006, 08:52 AM

I realize that.

DaveyBoy · 11-09-2006, 08:54 AM

Babies suck

ewomack · 11-09-2006, 08:55 AM

Abortion has a huge polarizing effect on people. There's very little middle ground on this issue and debates often turn into violent rants replete with finger pointing and name calling on both sides. The issue has incredible emotive power for very understandable reasons: one side sees baby killing and the other sees violation of women's rights. Truly, the passion and conviction on both sides reminds me of what I've read on the debates around slavery in pre-Civil War America. People were willing to kill to stop slavery, and likewise for abortion (not the general reaction in either case, of course). Both causes led to the organization of various groups, both religious and secular, that inexorably defended their stances. Both causes also led to single issue voters. Lastly, compromises usually inflamed rather than ameliorated the issue, which also seems true of abortion. Of course the fundamental issues have big differences, slavery and abortion have many differences, but the fervency of debate seems similar. People seem to stand 100% against it or 100% for it (with some murmurings of "not sure" here and there). This doesn't bode well for a resolution to the issue anytime soon.

My stance lies somewhere in the foggy middle. Absolutely banning the practice in any situation whatsoever seems extreme. Likewise, allowing people to abort freely and without implications also seems extreme. The staggering number of annual abortions in the US points to irresponsibility. But will banning abortion encourage responsiblity? One thing humans seem overly capable of, regardless of the sanctions, is procreating. We like sex, and we should. One argument on these lines says that banning abortion may create more problems than it solves (more poverty, overpopulation, starvation, economic problems) because it won't effect people's behavior anyway. No one really knows. The counter argument says that banning abortion will make people think twice about coochy-coo. No one really knows that either.

But the debates don't seem to have the real-world consequences of banning or allowing abortion at thier center. They seem to revolve around "baby killing" or "rights violation." I honestly don't know where to stand in this conundrum, and I struggle with it whenever I see the issue arise. Both sides have good arguments. Both sides also have undeniable passion. But flailing to either extreme seems myopic and unproductive. Who knows where this debate will go?

**kristeejo** · 11-09-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ewomack

Abortion has a huge polarizing effect on people. There's very little middle ground on this issue and debates often turn into violent rants replete with finger pointing and name calling on both sides. The issue has incredible emotive power for very understandable reasons: one side sees baby killing and the other sees violation of women's rights. Truly, the passion and conviction on both sides reminds me of what I've read on the debates around slavery in pre-Civil War America. People were willing to kill to stop slavery, and likewise for abortion (not the general reaction in either case, of course). Both causes led to the organization of various groups, both religious and secular, that inexorably defended their stances. Both causes also led to single issue voters. Lastly, compromises usually inflamed rather than ameliorated the issue, which also seems true of abortion. Of course the fundamental issues have big differences, slavery and abortion have many differences, but the fervency of debate seems similar. People seem to stand 100% against it or 100% for it (with some murmurings of "not sure" here and there). This doesn't bode well for a resolution to the issue anytime soon.

My stance lies somewhere in the foggy middle. Absolutely banning the practice in any situation whatsoever seems extreme. Likewise, allowing people to abort freely and without implications also seems extreme. The staggering number of annual abortions in the US points to irresponsibility. But will banning abortion encourage responsiblity? One thing humans seem overly capable of, regardless of the sanctio