Abortion

[John Scott]

I don't believe a human is formed in the first trimester

So you want to throw out the definition of "human" which states that a human is a living organism belonging to the species Homo sapiens, and institute a new definition for human that has to do with appearance?

Is that correct?

[Avinash]

Originally Posted by joecacia

Why Avi you choose it depend? On what situation you agree with abortion, you just said on your first time you are against?

Please don't take it to your heart! If we make abortion 100% illegal, too many women will die in serious medical cases.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Will

A fetus is not legal deemed a human until a certain number of weeks into the pregnancy.

Not true at all. Law has never questioned the species of the embyro.

[joecacia]

I don't get it, if you make it illegal they will die for medical cases why?
OK, when people have a medical condition this is something not using in here, it is about killing another human being, I am not against your choice, just why you did choose it.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by John Scott

So you want to throw out the definition of "human" which states that a human is a living organism belonging to the species Homo sapiens, and institute a new definition for human that has to do with appearance?

Is that correct?

Again, I'll reread and try to find where I stated that appearance makes me for abortion. One sec.

[Avinash]

Originally Posted by joecacia

I don't get it, if you make it illegal they will die for medical cases why?
OK, when people have a medical condition this is something not using in here, it is about killing another human being, I am not against your choice, just why you did choose it.

I've explained my reason to choose the last option. I was against abortion even in the another thread (political section) and doing the same thing in this thread.

I'm not gonna agree on this point if you think that we should save a fetus by killing a grown up human (woman, in this case).

I've heard about many situations when abortion is necessary. So, I'm just trying to be fair with the abortion stuff.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Brian

Again, I'll reread and try to find where I stated that appearance makes me for abortion. One sec.

Or forget the rereading, and tell me how your non-DNA, non-scientific definition of humanity is better than a scientific one.

[WillL]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Not true at all. Law has never questioned the species of the embyro.

trust me for once John.

or do some research

[Brian]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Or forget the rereading, and tell me how your non-DNA, non-scientific definition of humanity is better than a scientific one.

Viability in the foundation for my conclusions. Wikipedia offers a nice definition, but in short it means the capacity for survival.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by WillL

trust me for once John.

or do some research

Will, if you think Courts have determined that a human fetus is not human, simply post the species that the organism known as "human fetus" belongs to.

The species. Please.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Brian

Viability in the foundation for my conclusions. Wikipedia offers a nice definition, but in shrot it means the capacity for survival.

So, again, why do you think that human that is viable outside of the womb should have rights that a human that is not viable outside of the womb should have?

That's what I'm asking.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by John Scott

So, again, why do you think that human that is viable outside of the womb should have rights that a human that is not viable outside of the womb should have?

That's what I'm asking.

If something can't survive I don't consider it living.

That's what I'm saying.

[WillL]

Look. A fetus is not considered human until x weeks.

simple

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Brian

If something can't survive I don't consider it living.

That's what I'm saying.

That is kind of a contradiction in terms.

The viability concept admits that the fetus is alive, but says that the fetus cannot live outside of the womb. So "viability" as a concept demands and requires that its subject be living.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by John Scott

That is kind of a contradiction in terms.

The viability concept admits that the fetus is alive, but says that the fetus cannot live outside of the womb. So "viability" as a concept demands and requires that its subject be living.

Living off of something else, yep.

Living on its own, nope.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by WillL

Look. A fetus is not considered human until x weeks.

simple

Answer the question:

Originally Posted by John Scott

Will, if you think Courts have determined that a human fetus is not human, simply post the species that the organism known as "human fetus" belongs to.

The species. Please.

Answer.