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Old 12-30-2006, 12:38 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Nick... to be honest Linda above "gets it" more than you do... she is obviously NOT part of the prefered herd to your government.. you are..
Dude, you keep trying to insult my intelligence and insult my opinions.

You are the bigger man here.

This is a lose lose situation for me in this thread. I have been chastised as well as the general american public by a bunch of members that have no respect for other's opinions. Good riddance.

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Old 12-30-2006, 12:40 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Dude, you keep trying to insult my intelligence and insult my opinions.
NO I am not.. I am just saying they are NOT the only opinions.. and I never said they were wrong.. I did say I THINK they are blinkered..

Am I not allowed my opinion?

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Is that whats its about for you.. bigger, better... ie just like the way you show your pride for the USA..

You ARE consistant..
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:43 PM   #63 (permalink)
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China did a pretty smart move actually. They borrowed a couple of hundred billions to America, more than America can ever pay back, they produce nearly every single piece of (non military) hightec products that is used in the States and they now have a grip on the USA that will take a couple of centuries to get rid off.

Reason why the USA has not invaded Iran is because of China who signed contracts to buy all their oil (IN EUROS) from Iran.

Since China signed those contracts the USA had to stall its invasion plans and now they only have their loud mouths to use against Iran.

Politics are funny to observe, hehhe, the USA acts like they 'can' invade Iran any minute but in reality all they do is bark like a sad little puppy, no way that China will allow an Iran invasion and it's not going to happen, I stated that already more than a year ago when I read about those Chinese contracts.

China HAS the power to slap the USA around the ears when it wants to, not only with military force (which I think they can too) but more important, they now OWN the US economy, they can break it any time they want. America can simple not affort to get the Chinese against them.
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:44 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Am I not allowed my opinion?
Apparently, I am not because it's 'blinkered' or one sided and you and others are non-bias. Please, save it.

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Is that whats its about for you.. bigger, better... ie just like the way you show your pride for the USA..
What? I never said the US was the better nation or the biggest nation. I have pride for my country because I am a citizen. I do not chastize your country and say mine is better. Unbelievable.
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:46 PM   #66 (permalink)
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This is a lose lose situation for me in this thread. I have been chastised as well as the general american public by a bunch of members that have no respect for other's opinions.
ADDED after my reply...

You mean you cant accept any other way than yours...

Well I obviously didn't insult anyone else.. I do NOT have a problem with Americans..I DO have a problem with those who stand up and preach.. "we are the biggest and best and most powerful.. we are here to sort OTHERS problems out which were not our doing, and we ARE right."

Thats how you and your country come across.. and its people like you who put that view over... yet you then comaplin that others dont see things your way.. and that you ARE right.. and that we are "bashers"....

Woah... we SEE what we see... its America that DOES it.. America that PROJECTS that view... if you DONT like it why do it?
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China did a pretty smart move actually. They borrowed a couple of hundred billions to America, more than America can ever pay back, they produce nearly every single piece of (non military) hightec products that is used in the States and they now have a grip on the USA that will take a couple of centuries to get rid off.

Reason why the USA has not invaded Iran is because of China who signed contracts to buy all their oil (IN EUROS) from Iran.

Since China signed those contracts the USA had to stall its invasion plans and now they only have their loud mouths to use against Iran.

Politics are funny to observe, hehhe, the USA acts like they 'can' invade Iran any minute but in reality all they do is bark like a sad little puppy, no way that China will allow an Iran invasion and it's not going to happen, I stated that already more than a year ago when I read about those Chinese contracts.

China HAS the power to slap the USA around the ears when it wants to, not only with military force (which I think they can too) but more important, they now OWN the US economy, they can break it any time they want. America can simple not affort to get the Chinese against them.
Pretty important thing that happened dont you think... this is one thing the USA does NOT like... the fact others may balance the world power out.. or even gain more..as China have done here.
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I DO have a problem with those who stand up and preach.. "we are the biggest and best and most powerful.. we are here to sort OTHERS problems out which were not our doing, and we ARE right."

Thats how you and your country come across.. and its people like you who put that view over... yet you then comaplin that others dont see things your way.. and that you ARE right.. and that we are "bashers"....

Woah... we SEE what we see... its America that DOES it.. America that PROJECTS that view... if you DONT like it why do it?
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"we are the biggest and best and most powerful.. we are here to sort OTHERS problems out which were not our doing, and we ARE right."
Post a link to where I said we are the biggest and the best. Please, I'd like to see it. I never said we are right and are sorting everyone elses problems.

You have a huge problem trying to manipulate what I have said and I am truely insulted by your actions.

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Thats how you and your country come across.. and its people like you who put that view over... yet you then comaplin that others dont see things your way.. and that you ARE right.. and that we are "bashers"....
Generalization. I'm not complaining, you are the one complaining about the US.

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Old 12-30-2006, 12:54 PM   #70 (permalink)
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This is a political board. Keep arguments non-personal, please.
Nothing personal about it...

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Ferre IS already in the thread and is a mod... so I am sure he will be able to nip it in the bud if it got personal.. no pun intended!

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Pretty important thing that happened dont you think... this is one thing the USA does NOT like... the fact others may balance the world power out.. or even gain more..as China have done here.
Yep, that doesn't sit well with the Americans but they did it to themselves, it's their own utter stupidity and their desperate search for world domination that did it. They could have listened to the rest of the world and not borrow money from China to invade Iraq but they were in a hurry because Saddam was going to change the currence that he wanted for the Iraqi oil to EUROS. THAT was the main motivation for that invasion, they were in a hurry to stop that from happening, they did manage to stop that but were blind for the costs,...the rest is history.

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Post a link to where I said we are the biggest and the best. Please, I'd like to see it. I never said we are right and are sorting everyone elses problems.
I never said you did say that.. READ my post again.. I said preach.. that ideal preached.. the way I see it.. it comes over that way...

You have a huge problem trying to manipulate what I have said and I am truely insulted by your actions.

I have NO problem.. sorry you got upset..

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I never complained.. I entered into a conversation...

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Basher? where am I bashing? I am telling my opinion..
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Yep, that doesn't sit well with the Americans but they did it to themselves, it's their own utter stupidity and their desperate search for world domination that did it. They could have listened to the rest of the world and not borrow money from China to invade Iraq but they were in a hurry because Saddam was going to change the currence that he wanted for the Iraqi oil to EUROS. THAT was the main motivation for that invasion, they were in a hurry to stop that from happening, they did manage to stop that but were blind for the costs,...the rest is history.

Well explained.. as clear as could be...
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Basher? where am I bashing? I am telling my opinion..
You lose all credibility when you result in name calling and derogatory comments that you think are ok to say as opinions...

Enough said.
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You lose all credibility when you result in name calling and derogatory comments that you think are ok to say as opinions...

Enough said.
Did I call you any name? No.. why did you say that?

My opinions are my opinions.. not once did those opinions call you a name...
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My opinions are my opinions.. not once did those opinions call you a name...