Escalation of War In Iraq

[littleFella]

Originally Posted by StupidScript

robert s., with respect, you're talking about the differences between Yeltsin and Putin. One's the "freedom" representative and the other represents the old school.

I think you got it all wrong.
Reagan, JP2, Solidarity and Putin dismantled USSR. Without "old school" Putin we would still be in the Cold War I, instead of Cold War II which seems to be taking place now. Did you ever come across the term "perestroyka"? While not political at its roots, it had far reaching political effects and it was hardly an "old school".

Yeltsin was an opportunist who pretty much had no choices but act as a freedom fighter. The fact that he drunk way too much helped him make some critical decisions early on

[robert s.]

@stupidscript
i dont understand what you are talking about.... yeltsin - putin - free sausages......
not one of these words were ever used by me.
and if you mean it metaforically: read up the history of spain since 1974. there is nothing which you could compare to what happened in russia.

franko wanted a junta and a wallpaper king - but this wallpaper king changed the whole thing into ........
a democracy and a wallpaper king!
i am not spanish, i only live here and i can tell you: there are many people quite happy about juan carlos!!!

[G10]

Originally Posted by zcoder

I would rather pay someone on welfare to provide for their kids then to
pay for a lazy person with no kids.

I don't know why but it seems that millions of tourists are hell-bent on seeing Buckingham Palace and other royal houses, plus all the guards and the like.

If you removed them from the planet people would still want to go see the
royal houses, and the Buckingham Palace becouse of the history of it all.

it's not becouse of the monarchy's they come, it's the history of it all.
Hey, but who am I to say who you should pay tax's to just so she can
pay it back. plus more. so why take it in the first place huh?

sounds funny to me but hey, after all I am a dumb old american, you must
forgive me for that huh?

Zcoder....

Nothing wrong with you being a dumb american but the only way to get out of that situation is to listen to others and so broaden your views.

If you don't understand the British system, thats fine and that is why I am trying to help you.

btw - Of course it's because of the monarchy they come. Everybody seems to want to try to get a photo of the monarchy or the Royal Guards.

[zcoder]

Maybe your own people, but most tourists can care less, infact a picture
of the monarchy is useless, now a pic of them self standing my the
historical buildings and such, that is better. as it proves that you was
there.

But don't fool your self into thinking otherwise.
Oh, and maybe if I was with the media but the average tourist would not
waste the film.

Besides, all the people I know who have visited there, have no pictures of
the monarchy. it just does not fit into show and tell of your vacation to well.

Zcoder....

[micksss]

support the troops bring them home now!

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by micksss

support the troops bring them home now!

Dumb idea.

[hyperspace]

Um, I don't quite see why everybody's so excited over the escalation of the war in Iraq. I mean, he IS paying for everything; the tanks,the guns, the suits of armor. Doesn't that mean he gets to decide what's going on over there?

[geo77]

Quote:
Originally Posted by micksss
support the troops bring them home now!

Dumb idea.

How is that a dumb idea? You don't really believe in all that "implosion" propaganda being spread by the oil loyalists do you? As long as there is a foreign military presence in Iraq, there will be fighting.

[hyperspace]

Iraq is going to be an awesome country when we get it back up and running. I've always wanted to travel in the Middle East, but it's too dangerous. People are too impatient. I mean, Americans are totally popular in Vietnam now. Am I Right?

[Godzi]

Originally Posted by hyperspace

Iraq is going to be an awesome country when we get it back up and running. I've always wanted to travel in the Middle East, but it's too dangerous. People are too impatient. I mean, Americans are totally popular in Vietnam now. Am I Right?

It would be really stupid to bring the US troups back now. USA started a shit in Irak, now they must finish what they started.
Attaking a country for stupid reasons is horrible, but going back home leaving this country in the chaos is worst.
One day maybe they 'll learn what the word "responsability" means.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by geo77

How is that a dumb idea? You don't really believe in all that "implosion" propaganda being spread by the oil loyalists do you? As long as there is a foreign military presence in Iraq, there will be fighting.

Foreign military presence has nothing to do with the fighting. If you paid attention, you'd notice that the majority of the fighting is not targeting the US. It's inter-Muslim. Shiites killing Sunni, and vice versa.

If we walk out on Iraq, the bloodbath will get much, much worse.

[geo77]

Foreign military presence has nothing to do with the fighting.

Well, it does have something to do with the fighting with and killing of foreign military personnel, don't you think? Around 3,400 Americans have died in Iraq since the beginning of the conflict.

[geo77]

If we walk out on Iraq, the bloodbath will get much, much worse.

Worse than now?
That is definitely the picture being painted by the current administration, one of the groups amassing the biggest profits from the venture.
Say, where did all of those guns being used by the "insurgents" come from again? Where are they coming from now?

[John Scott]

Where are they coming from now?

Iran.

Worse than now?

Yes, other countries in the region are predicting the same. Some say it will be ethnic cleansing time if the US leaves.

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Iran.

Funny that even Bush doesn't claim this crapo anymore and is very, very quite about those alledged weapons coming from Iran since he was asked to show the evidence by several members in his congress and a few politicians from allied countries. Needless to say that no one has seen any evidence to this day.

Originally Posted by John Scott

Yes, other countries in the region are predicting the same. Some say it will be ethnic cleansing time if the US leaves.

As if there's no ethnic cleansing going on now, depleted uranium will do that job for another 400 years to come in some of the Iraqi cities.

[John Scott]

16 hours ago:

The U.S. accuses Shi'ite Iran of supplying weapons and training to Shi'ite militias in Iraq

http://www.eitb24.com/new/en/B24_483....S.-over-Iraq/

[hyperspace]

If we want Iraq to be part of our country, we have to make the people over there feel a little more included. In hip hop everybody's always shoutin out and reprazentin where they're from. Maybe the people in the community could send some shout outs to Iraq. Or we could set up some schools over there and teach the people how to rap for themselves. You know what I'm sayin?

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by John Scott

16 hours ago:
http://www.eitb24.com/new/en/B24_483....S.-over-Iraq/

Hollow accusations without, again, any evidence to back those claims up. I have been searching real hard, and all I find is loads of people looking for the same evidence.

I want to believe it, really, but the Bush administration is populated by criminally insane sociapaths who also have proven to be pathological liars about every time they opened their mouth in the past and to believe them on 'their word' would be a tad naive, how stupid do they think we are?

[chum112]

Okay heres a thought everyone?

Saddam Hussein was a tyrant leader, George Bush removed him. Would you still want him in power murdering his own people still?
Secondly, why blame the USA, the violence is at the control of the religious sects and militias. Its time we blame them and not the USA.

The USA has removed a dictator from power, the rest was the fault and the wish of the so called religous sectors.