This year or maybe next year, I am not sure yet, I will be publishing
my 12th book, called "europe, the fall to islam"
And while I am still writting yet another one called
"Islam that never spoke out"
which has a lot more time to go on it until it is finished.
And this forum and others like it, has been of some great help
in helping me to almost complete "europe, the fall to islam"
which near the end discribes in detail the mind set of current
europe today in regards to terrists and radical isalm.
Which is why I have came here off and on to shake the cage, so to speak
and get more truthfull responses from people.
and have also been travling around country to country to talk
to the people who live in these places. to compile a more complete
out look on how europe views todays events that are unfolding in our
time.
the title "europe, the fall to islam"
which is very close to what took place in lebanon.
For those of you who don't know history to well,
lebanon use to have many religions existing together.
But then islam moved in, along with Hezbollah and once
islam grew larger then the other religions then the other
religions were rounded up and killed or chased out of
lebanon.
I had to travel to Isreal to talk to many people who were chased
out of lebanon and who I call survivors. these people told me
about lebanon, and how they themself hated isreal until islam
chased them out of lebanon to isreal.
With many people they knew who never made it.
But what does this have to do with europe? well for 5 years
I have been visiting all over europe getting to know the people
in every state of the union, and when I went to france for example
I felt like I was in france, and just as you would expect.
But when I left the big tourist citys I felt more like I was in
the mid east. which surprised me alot to find that most of france
is islam.
And we already know about the riots in france from the islam.
anyway the point is france is getting close to the same point
where lebanon was, and remember that at one time lebanon had
christians, and many other religions co existing together.
So like lebanon france will fall to islam, and none belivers
as well as christians and other none islam religions will fall
pray to the same movment that drove other religions out of
lebanon.
But when this will happen can not be predicted.
At the same time, it is well known that europe as a whole has
taken in tons of people of islamic religion and the brits being
the first to find out that it is a problem, so much so that they
are changing some of their laws.
Anyways, I think you can see a picture of what I am getting at
when I say "europe, the fall to islam"
What happend in lebanon is easier to take place in europe when most
of it's population is convenced that radical islam is a small group
that should be dealed with by local police action. while most of my
findings in the last 5 years shows that no important person or group
of the islam faith will take a national stance to speak out against
radical groups such as Hezbollah.(you will see why later)
I have searched high and low for any islam group willing to speak out
against radical isalm, And once again demonstrating the fact that there
is no clear or easy way to distinguish between Muslims who are peaceful
and entirely loyal to their country., and those who harbor jihadist
sympathies.
Certainly Muslims in any country have not expelled jihadists from their ranks.
so you must ask why? ask yourself why?
Here is why,
Jihad (in Arabic, "struggle") is a central duty of every Muslim.
Modern Muslim theologians have spoken of many things as jihads: the struggle
within the soul, defending the faith from critics, supporting its growth and
defense financially, even migrating to non-Muslim lands for the purpose of
spreading Islam.
While violent jihad is a constant of Islamic history. Many passages of the Qur'an
and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad are used by jihad warriors today to justify
their actions and gain new recruits. No major Muslim group has ever repudiated
the doctrines of armed jihad.
The theology of jihad, which denies unbelievers equality of human rights and dignity,
is available today for anyone with the will and means to read it.
If you don't educate yourself on islam faith, you stay blind to the events you
see unfolding in our times.
This is just a brief example of what it's all about.
So I won't go into to much detail on it.
And what I would like to ask members of this forum is, if they have ever
really looked into the issues I just gave a brief example of, and if they
knew any of this at all?
Or if they think it is crazy and an insane like Micheal Moores ideas.
or if they just did not understand none of it.
and be honest.
'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq …" And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
"I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."
Well, sence George is written every where is your quote I would have to
say George.
But you read some article written by some fanatic who does not like Bush.
but the bush days are almost gone, and we will still have to deal with what
state the world affairs are in at present time.
Oh, and the book is not about some islamic conspiracy or plan to take
over the world, infact that would be so far off the charts that it's not
even funny.
Islam is by design always been this way, as it reads in the Qur'an. supporting its growth and defense financially, even migrating to non-Muslim lands for the purpose of spreading Islam.
so it's not some hair brain conspiracy thought out by radical islamist
but rather the way isalm has always been sence it's creation.
Islam is by design always been this way, as it reads in the Qur'an. supporting its growth and defense financially, even migrating to non-Muslim lands for the purpose of spreading Islam.
so it's not some hair brain conspiracy thought out by radical islamist
but rather the way isalm has always been sence it's creation.
Zcoder....
Let me get one thing straight here. I do not agree with the Quran teachings and agree that there is a lot of stuff in there that is dangerous.
In the same token, I trust our Countries are doing the right thing and keep an eye on the people that follow such teachings.
Do you think I trust anyone that believes that sending their own children into places to explode and kill other people is the correct thing to do? Not one bit.
All I and others are saying is that it takes two to tango and we can not just put the blame on them.
We must be careful not to fall into the trap of causing an us-and-them society as this will just cause more hatred and will keep spiralling out of control.
Like you said "it takes two to tango" so this sound like to me that you
think they will leave you alone, if you don't bother them?
couse the name for that is pacifist, and it came at a hight cost to
alot of europeans just before ww2.
also remember that islam by design says that the theology of jihad,
denies unbelievers equality of human rights and dignity, this also goes for
atheist. and all non islams fall in to this group, which simply means you have
no right to live.
Ok, so according to your views, we have established that;
We can't reason with them as they are brainwashed.
We can't offer them help as they will deny that we tried to help or turn it to terrorize us.
No matter what we do, they are going to build up this force and try to bring the west to it's knee's.
We can't sit back and do nothing as according to their teachings, they believe that we have no right to live. Seems like we are only left with wiping them all out right
You don't think that this view may also be inciting hatred?
Between the Quran and it's teachings and Bush on a mission from God, I'd say, we are all pretty screwed.
Someone has to show some initiative and brain and show people that there may be another way.
In the UK, most Muslim schools segregate themselves from other faith schools. How is this ever going to teach these children that we are all humans and pretty similar? Instead, this is going to give them as us-and-them attitude.
There are ways to start the process and we just need to implement them.
If they are not carrying them out in their country, there is not a lot we can do but at least we have made a start.
For one, we don't destroy people becouse of their religion.
but we can control what our own people know of this religion
becouse knowlage can also be a tool for alert ness.
Doing nothing at all will gain us nothing. and destroying these people is
not the answer. if they can't live with other people and religions
then why let them come live with us, it is obvious that they are not
tolerant of others.
and after all the west is based on the belive that all people are equal
and have rights. and if they can't acept the way we live in a free
world, they should not be allowed to come to our countrys.
they have their own, and we the west would leave them be, if they
want to live their life with their religion their way in their own country.
and if they can't acept the way we live in a free
world, they should not be allowed to come to our countrys.
Dunno if you have noticed, but we, the west, have been bomming their countries for the past decades because of reasons only justified by western views. Isn't it possible that maybe, maybe, that has pissed them off a bit?
And me personally I don't see 'islam taking over Europe' at all. That's just fear mongering and advocating hatred towards an entire religion.
Ferre,
you lost the whole point, as I did not advocate to kill them, nore to
treat them bad in anyway, I just suggested that they go back home
where our way of life will not bug the crap out of them. Sence they
can't find away to be more tolerant of others around them.
But with you Ferre, any suggestion is not good enough, your just like the
dems over here, full of griping, with no solutions under your own belt to offer
up. which solves nothing but makes for alot of noise.
If I could ever hear you even once say something that made sence I would
passwout in disbelive.
I could place a million dollar bet on you, that you will go to the last day
beliving that your view of the world is right, and would solve all the worlds
problems if those dam americans would just smarten up.
But I have not even heard a solution from you, just a gripe of how messed up
it all is. which the way I was raised does not make sence to me.
for one if you don't have a solution to offer, how can you think it would
get better???
It would be like me telling a piolet of a plane how he could fly safer, when I
don't even have a clue how to fly a plane.
Dude, you say that the solution is to kick them all out of the western world. That's your 'solution'?
And if that's your solution, wouldn't it be no more than logical for us to move out of their territories as well?
I think that's where the problems will get even worse, because I do not see 'the west' move out of their territories. Or, do you suggest that we just kick them all out and preserve the right to stay there ourselvelves?
'The west' wants their oil, and the west wants to control the oil price as well, and to achieve that, the west needs control of the area, in case you didn't know.
BTW, your suggestion of kicking them all out smells a lot like ethnic cleansing, which, as you might not be aware of, is a crime against humanity according to the Geneva Convention. How would you bypass that?
ethnic cleansing?? how so? their is no killing involved.
I don't know where you get ethnic cleansing from?
For one, to become a citizen here you have to learn to speak english
learn about our history and a few other things as well as learn to asimulate.
so one of those things would required has to be that you MUST respect others
and their religions and if for some reason, your religion does not allow you
to repect other of different religions then you would not be happy here
anyways.
ZCoder. You are painting all muslims with the same brush.
You can't do that with Christians. You can't do that with Jews. You can't do that with Buddhists.
What makes you think that you CAN do that with Muslims?
untill islam groups around the world speak out against the radical islam
I can't really place any trust in a group that declines on those offers
to show their support to us.
