Islam

[South]

Originally Posted by Ferre

Yeah, that would be a tad too much foir a president to do in a western democracy, he does however oppose gay marriage because of his personal believe system, and what to think on how he feels about atheists?



Found here: http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.htm

What makes this statements about non believers any different from statements by, say, the president of Iran in an Islamic context?

I'm getting confused. Which Bush are we on here?

[G10]

Originally Posted by Ferre

For me, there's not much difference between muslim extremists or christian extremists. <-- Those Abrahamic scriptures clearly cause braindamage.

One thing I have to give the Chinese government credits for; They made it illegal to print or spread the Abrahamic scriptures because those scriptures advocate hate, racism, violence, intolerance and genocide. More countries should do that.

Many people don't realize that the muslim, Jewish and christian faith are all based upon the same scriptures, in fact they all worship the same religion and the same god, only with minor differences in interpretation. For me, that religion is a pest for this world, history proved, and still proves it today.

Oh come on dude, choosing those people as an example of a religion following the bible?

I mean, comments like "floods, tornadoes, earthquakes, IEDs, collapsing mines and more -- we pray daily for more outpourings of God's justice and wrath on this evil, hateful nation."

They believe that God is spending all his time trying out new methods of punishing Americans.

I do agree that both extremists have caused a lot of damage towards mankind though but these people just need to read the book properly and just select the odd single verse to support them.

btw - I have said it a few times in the past but the old testament covenant laws were put to rest by and superseded by the new covenant in the new testament so anybody that still follows those laws may need to read up a little

[Julie]

I think extremes in any religion is harmful, and has resulted in millions of deaths around the world over the course of the centuries. Whether that is Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or whatever.

[kristeejo]

Originally Posted by G10

I believe that God is spending all his time trying out new methods of punishing Americans.

The British are next.

[G10]

You're a horrid little imp Christy

[kristeejo]

Originally Posted by G10

You're a horrid little imp Christy

like I haven't heard that one before...geez

[upsonians]

Well i think Islam is the most peaceful Religion of all.But there are few people who r using the name of Muslims.And pointing out those people is not the exact definition of Islam.Check this for Islam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam

And for John u mentioned the five pillars of Islam which are not those but here are they;
1.Prayer
2.The pilgrimage
3.Faith
4.The fast
5.The zakat.

Check here the details about the five pillars on which Islam stands on.Basic pillars of Islam


And for the Islam in the united states check this LINK
If u guys have any wuestion regarding Islam u can get its answer here LINK

[John Scott]

upsonians, I'm curious. What sect are you?

[Tanya]

John...

going back to that link:

Yo Muslim Mama’s so dirty she needs to creep up on bathwater (not that she ever would).

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by upsonians

Well i think Islam is the most peaceful Religion of all.

According to the polls I've seen, a lot of Muslims support the actions of Al Qaeda.

[upsonians]

Originally Posted by John Scott

According to the polls I've seen, a lot of Muslims support the actions of Al Qaeda.

Exactly.Let me ask u have u ever heared the name of Alqaida as a terrorests before 9/11.
Though they were existing there.They were the rulers of a complete country Afghanistan.They ruled that country for more then 10 years.And u can see the history how they ruled over there.The most peaceful country.Many leaders of the world accepted it.And upto 9/11 Us was supporting them as they supported them in the Russian attack.
But after 9/11 Alqaida was blamed to be terrosrests.
Alqaida is not a terrerest group but the image shown by the US govt is not the real one.
The people who were in touch to Afghanistan can betterly explains what Alqaida is in reality.
Thats why people are in favour of Alqaida.

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by upsonians

Alqaida is not a terrerest group but the image shown by the US govt is not the real one.

So this is all lies?

A suicide bomber has struck at a US-backed reconciliation meeting of Shia and Sunni tribal sheikhs aimed at easing tensions in the Iraqi province of Baquba. At least 15 people were killed in the explosion, including the city's police chief, and about 30 were wounded.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F5F30908-AE8D-4E51-B06E-910DC7984A23.htm

CAIRO — A Sunni insurgent coalition led by Al Qaeda in Iraq claimed responsibility on Tuesday for a homicide bombing that hit a U.S.-promoted reconciliation meeting of Shiite and Sunni tribal sheiks, killing 15 people.

The claim came in a posting on an Islamic militant Web forum, signed by the Islamic State of Iraq, the umbrella group set up by Al Qaeda's branch in the country.

The group said it "has promised the government of apostates painful blows, and here it has fulfilled its promise."

"Yesterday, one of the lions of the martyrdom squad, the Abu Omar al-Kurdi Brigades, plunged with his suicide belt into a gathering for national reconciliation ... and God enabled him to reap most of the chiefs of that fetid council," the statement said.

The attack Monday took place in the city of Baqouba, capital of Diyala province northeast of Baghdad, where the bomber set off his blast in a mosque courtyard where many of the participants in the gathering were located. Among the 15 dead were the city's police chief and the provincial security operations chief. Thirty people were wounded, including two U.S. soldiers and the provincial governor.

The attack represented a major challenge to U.S. efforts to bring together Shiites and Sunnis here in Diyala province, scene of some of the bitterest fighting in Iraq. Over the summer, U.S. troops regained control of Baqouba, which Al Qaeda in Iraq had previously declared the capital of its Islamic state.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298037,00.html

[upsonians]

Originally Posted by Cricket

So this is all lies?

Ohhh my GOD ..Don't u see what US doing with people of IRAQ and Afghanistan.Read this for the masked face of US.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4715540.stm

Tony Blair and Bush are punishing the people like animals.U can have the fact on bbc and every media check here.


We have videos of Afghanistan and IRaq which proves the cruel nature of US army here is something more


Why was US with Talibans before 9/11?
Why US supported Talibans against Russian attack over Afghanistan?
Answer my questions.
Talibans are in fact product of America against Russia.
And Talibans became Alqaida which is now called Terrorests.
Amazning.
I wil suggest u to read this detailed history of America and Alqaida..before replying.
And plz don't forget to answer my questions.
Thx
Regards:
Arif

[Cricket]

Respectfully, unless I have missed it somewhere, you did not answer my question.

[John Scott]

Why was US with Talibans before 9/11?
Why US supported Talibans against Russian attack over Afghanistan?
Answer my questions.

Um, duh... to stop the spread of Soviet communism?

And Talibans became Alqaida which is now called Terrorests.

Yes, because they commit terrorist actions, and claim responsibility for terrorist actions.

If you want to deny that, then you will have to claim that Bin Laden is a liar for claiming responsibility for terrorist acts around the world.

Alqaida is not a terrerest group but the image shown by the US govt is not the real one.

The image shown by Muslims is still one of a terrorist group, whether you admit it or not.

[monhunter]

islam is good but beacuse of bunch of people it has been critised